bolivarian_robert
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Ayo it smell like bitch in ere
1. 16
2. Socialism and left-wing nationalism. I believe in socialism with a nationalist ethos.
3. To talk to others
4. Male
5. USA
6. Catholic
7. No view
Hi
Anyone want to debate about socialism?
How @DoobyCooby
Lol
@Attika You wanna try?
Socialism doesnโt require government intervention in personal lives, it requires government intervention in the economy @Attika
Also focusing on the many is a good thing for a nation to survive
What rights
How does socialism infringe on those things
No @DoobyCooby
But Marx believed in the right to bear arms
If itโs a right then even children have access to them
Why are you changing the conversation @Attika
No we were talking about socialism @Notso
Donโt change it
Whatโs wrong with that
The Venezuela crisis wasnโt caused by government intervention in the economy
It was caused by over-reliance on a single resource starting in the 1970โs
Thatโs not an opinion to be disagreed with, itโs a fact that Venezuela started being over reliant on oil a solid 30 years before the socialist government took power @Attika
The crisis was doomed to happen
The Venezuelan economy also suffered in the 1980โs
Under a capitalist government
It was inevitable
When Chavez first took power Venezuela was literally just walking out of a financial crisis
Youโre not Venezuelan so youโre not speaking from personal experience
You said you were speaking from personal experience
You donโt know what caused the Venezuela crisis though
It wasnโt government intervention in the economy
You just were
You were talking about how government intervention destroyed Venezuela
I was explaining how you are wrong
Thatโs quite abrupt
Anyway, whatโs your next point
What experience
And tell me how โsocialist policiesโ caused it
And what happened
And how did socialism cause it
I do
Thatโs not a socialism problem, thatโs an American problem
Your people are absolutely degenerate
They have no honor
Welfare should only be available for those who are unable to work or find work
Thatโs not a problem with socialism
Thatโs a problem with your culture
No
Iโm a Bolivian-American who still has the honor that your ancestors did
I donโt know you
But that woman you mention has none
It wouldnโt conflict with socialism to cut her off
From welfare
I am
But it doesnโt contradict full socialism to only provide welfare to people who deserve it
Like old people or people who are unable to find work
No I believe workers should for the most part
Things should be nationalized though
By controlling their workplaces
There are co-ops without bosses that exist that are succsssful
Successful
Itโs not an exception, itโs just rare because there arenโt many co-ops
Co-ops in this sense are coworkers working together
Small businesses should be allowed to exist
Privately
All large businesses and corporations should be abolished
Yes
@DoobyCooby Correct
@Attika Thatโs why it happens slowly
Iโm not gonna sign a law that says โall corporations are bannedโ
It would happen gradually
To not destroy shit
Yes @Attika
How big is it
Is it like local?
Whatโs it called
If youโre not going to tell me the name out of fear of doxing itโs probably too small to be nationalized
Socialism has worked in several countries before
Before the US and other countries destroyed it
Germany is not socialist @Notso
Most of it @Attika
Only small businesses should be private
Private property is different from personal property
Personal property is shit like your house and your yard
And everything in it
Unless youโre using your yard for commercial purposes then itโs personal property and not private property
Then itโs private property but still shouldnโt be taken away because small businesses should remain private
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