For example, should we sacrifice efficiency for the sake of lowering the cost and increasing access to the public?

it should follow a system that is like on Germany.

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@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) No

Germany's socialized healthcare is a good model

its probably the best example

@ChillyWilly An example against private is drugs

I dislike the British NHS but Iike the one used in Germany or Switzerland, minus the mandatory savings account and higher taxes.

Epi Pen for example, but most drugs as well

I’d rather have decent healthcare for everybody than the best healthcare known to man for like 2% of people

Should drugs be private or public?

But then there is the decreased innovation.

kraut and tea made a vidio on this topic

i know hes retarded

but its a pretty good video nonetheless

I kept hearing horrible stories about long lines in Canada and the UK.

@bolivarian_robert this

Exactly right @bolivarian_robert

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) They are myths

My brother has been to the doctors in the UK, there was no wait time

the only downside to Canada's healthcare system is the downsides really

At all

it's a topic politicians avoid talking about

(wait what the fuck did I just say)

the wait-times

The downsides are the downsides

am I wrong though?

Well said

I meant the downside is the wait times

which can be up to months

Switzerland is a Universal Private Health Insurance nation. Japan is a Universal Public Insurance nation. Finland is a Universal Government funded nation. Germany is a Universal Public-Private Insurance nation. And the US. is a Non-Universal Insurance nation.

- just as a comparison

France is a decent example of federalized healthcare

although they spend a large portion of their budget on healthcare each year

@GreyWolf Doesn't the US technically have public healthcare as well, in the form of Medicaid?

It is a public option more or less.

It is not used by everyone, thus not universal.

Exactly

And alot of people here don't like Medicaid.

@GreyWolf There is a contradiction in the US whenever I hear about paying a lot for healthcare insurance. On some plans, I heard that, and especially if their jobs provide healthcare, they pay as low as $60 a month. Vincent James once said that he pays over $1200 a month for a family plan and keep in mind, he lives in California. Why is there a discrepancy?

Well they can vary state to state. And different Health Insurance groups have different charge rates.