Message from @PugThug
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@Diadact so wait youre saying you have to have an open mind for spirits to affect you n shit?
in my exp thats not always the case
True. Yet sometimes these things do elude the very mechanisms of empiricism itself in some ways.
@PugThug no no, I'm saying that maybe there is no definite answer to if there are demons or not, and our mind is capable of doing fantastic things, and to break this sort of "limiter" we have naturally placed on ourselves, no doubt for the sake of sanity, you can pray, or preform a ritual, or meditate
@kore_khthonia there are claimed effects that are less quantifiable sure, but there are always things that can be done to provide proof, one way or another
I think the design of rituals produces a phsychological effect on people, which can produce the feelings @PugThug describes
I'm of the opinion that there are other entities at play, but I find the debate of if it's completely a human invention or not
*fascinating
its worse for people who dont believe because they arent protected
The act of going through a summoning, making a blood sacrifice, gathering weird shit, all that contributes to a mental state that causes the effects people describe
ie w charms n 💩 like that
but you understand osteos argument, right bot?
he's saying by you saying that
Wearing charms protects you because you *believe* it will protect you
If you don't believe it will, then it won't
"people are worse off because they aren't protected" would fuel his argument that you just perceive it that way
I understand what he's trying to say
It's nice that we can have discussions about stuff like this :)
idk belief is a funny thing and i have a strange relationship with it
my guide is prone to telling me not to interfere with what i dont yet understand
so i tend to overlook some things
good perspective tho
Is your guide an actual person
You said his name was Ryan
u mean like a real person or a spirit?
Like an actual dude named Ryan
I think he means like a human being name Ryan lol
Yeah
hes a human spirit named ryan
thats abt it lol
y do u ask m8?
Becuase I wasn't sure lol
Not exactly what I would have expected a spirit to go by you know
Why dont you fuck around with stuff you dont understand? your guide sounds like shit
It's like meeting a demon named Kevin
you need to "explore" your "mind" if you want to progress
Or an angel named Tyrone