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how is personal property different than private property?

steven universe doesn't understand what subtlety is

otherwise it's a good show

You're the 8th person I've met that's made that joke :p

~~the name is not based on that~~

๐Ÿค” how is that a useful distinction?

but..what if my property has both emotional value and I use it to run a business

but it's your property, why should it?

and that doesn't answer my question

that's an entirely different point

maybe a better way to phrase it would be, why do I own the business, and the product it produces, but not the means to produce it

~~just answer his question he's not gonna stop~~

so you still own it in the sense that nothing stops you from sending it

timmy the farmer surely knows the best way for timmy the car manufacturer to distribute his cars

well when your currency could go from having value to being fuel for the cooking fire you wouldn't save either

oh no universal healthcare, how scary

nobody claimed it had to be the best education <:smugpepe:619749634402942998>

gonna need some proof for that one chief

Why did you go to college?

What is a temporary plan or marketplace?

that's very strange nevada

I can't think of anything an insurance company wouldn't cover that isn't elective off the top of my head

under a marketplace plan at least

how does it define significant figures?

what company was your plan with?

oh a local company? That might explain the weird gaps in coverage if it was something odd like that

I bet the business chose some weird ass insurance company that offered cheap plans to cut back on costs

๐Ÿค” you have to charge for healthcare

...you do? You have to pay doctors somehow. Someone or something is getting charged at the end of the day

The 500 dollars pays the hospital, who then pays the doctor

The doctor gets a lot more than 5 dollars from it

Doctors make more than 5 dollars an hour, and that's being generous saying a doctor sees a patient every hour ๐Ÿค”

they make a lot more than 20 dollars an hour lol

that's all assuming the doctor sees that many people that quickly, which is rarely the case

sure, but then how are you going to pay for the cost of running the hospital?

medical equipment is expensive as shit

equipment upkeep, and then there's all the employees that aren't doctors but are required for the hospital to run

xray techs, lab technicians, etc etc

the equipment is expensive because it's either difficult to manufacture, or has to be manufactured to standards that drive up price

It's not an excuse by any means

yes, and under capitalism, if your product costs more to produce then you have to charge more for it

take scalpels for instance. Not only does it have to be made with enough precision to cut correctly, but also has to be made out of the right kind of metal, and must be both be made sterile and packaged in a sterile way. all of that adds to production costs

the same goes for needles, bandages, and just about everything else a hospital uses

the medical industry is expensive both because it stands as business that people have no choice but to use, but also because the costs required to operate it are inherently high.

and also because hospitals can negotiate inflated prices with the insurance company that the consumer could never afford to pay

@Departure I'm a wage slave for the next 2 weeks, how do I survive

you seem a little jealous of billionaires ngl

like I know you want their money, but come on

this is a little over the top no?

@Meva do you know someone called Maxine?

should billionaires give away most of their money

Implementation is a serious issue

and also, you know, the fact that people that have worked hard and made smarter decisions than other people aren't exactly going to want to part with their hard earned money so timmy the wagie can get some money every month

just have to invent our robot overlords so we don't have to work anymore

then we can all be leeches guilt free!

I for one welcome the 2100's and the robot overlords

tfw you'll never be a cute anime girl

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I support universal healthcare

we should just invade mexico already tbh

it's gonna happen eventually

might as well get it out of the way now

seriously though nevada do you know someone called Maxine

can I have cookies as well nevada

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If your great great grand uncle was president of mexico, I'd say that gives you a pretty good reason to run for Mexican President <:smugpepe:619749634402942998>

idk nevada, when was the last time you looked into the mirror and really searched for your reptilian self?

good effort nevada, but this time try making dragon ball gt noises

Hard to catch those tendencies when the stigmatization to talk about them is so high @Hali

You're not gonna want to talk about it when the general reaction from people is wanting you dead

@Bolsapryca the idea is that with intervention that could be prevented

But you can't intervene if nobody will talk about it

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