Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2019-01-31 17:56:06 UTC  

If the majority of the economy is dominated by market forces it is capitalist

2019-01-31 17:56:10 UTC  

By any genuine definition, you are wrong

2019-01-31 17:56:22 UTC  

You have your own definition of socialism, one you've given the word yourself

2019-01-31 17:56:32 UTC  

Your definition of socialism is "anything that is not capitalist"

2019-01-31 17:56:36 UTC  

Socialism is workers control of the economy

2019-01-31 17:56:36 UTC  

Not really, many other people have the same defintion as me

2019-01-31 17:56:37 UTC  

which is childish

2019-01-31 17:56:40 UTC  

No they don't

2019-01-31 17:56:40 UTC  

Socialism is worker or state control

2019-01-31 17:56:43 UTC  

of the economy

2019-01-31 17:56:45 UTC  

They do

2019-01-31 17:56:45 UTC  

Wrong

2019-01-31 17:56:54 UTC  

Somewhat correct, but let me fix it

2019-01-31 17:56:57 UTC  

The state doesnt control the econony

2019-01-31 17:57:02 UTC  

Yes it does in a socialist economy

2019-01-31 17:57:03 UTC  

In todays world

2019-01-31 17:57:14 UTC  

Capitalism has existed

2019-01-31 17:57:16 UTC  

well thats debatable, but we'll save that for after

2019-01-31 17:57:17 UTC  

It does exist

2019-01-31 17:57:19 UTC  

When?

2019-01-31 17:57:22 UTC  

I don't see a free market

2019-01-31 17:57:29 UTC  

feel free to point one out tho

2019-01-31 17:57:32 UTC  

There are markets

2019-01-31 17:57:37 UTC  

But those are not capitalist

2019-01-31 17:57:41 UTC  

a market economy is not a capitalist economy

2019-01-31 17:57:44 UTC  

Capitalism has been tried and failed.

2019-01-31 17:57:45 UTC  

Socialism is an economic model where the workers have control over the means of production. This can be achieved through any means, but it is not achieved through the state ACTING ON BEHALF of the worker. In order for state socialism to be socialism, the worker must have control of the state

2019-01-31 17:57:49 UTC  

This is socialism

2019-01-31 17:57:50 UTC  

Usa, hong kong, france, germany, etc

2019-01-31 17:57:51 UTC  

Not real capitalism.

2019-01-31 17:57:52 UTC  

Not what you just said

2019-01-31 17:57:52 UTC  

I haven't seen it been tried

2019-01-31 17:57:58 UTC  

USA hong kong etc aren't capitalist

2019-01-31 17:58:01 UTC  

all have state intervention

2019-01-31 17:58:02 UTC  

Muh but that isnt REEEL capitalism

2019-01-31 17:58:13 UTC  

I haven't seen socialism been tried either.

2019-01-31 17:58:14 UTC  

Let's grab a wide range of definitions

2019-01-31 17:58:17 UTC  

wikiepedia

2019-01-31 17:58:17 UTC  

@The Big Oof It's actually workers or state ownership