Message from @Ghost of Descartes
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any intervention in the market is not capitalism
You have an extremely personalized definition of socialism
Alright but only one person at a time
one or two
Just respond to me then, since I've said the most
aight
I have to leave for work soon. but I think the others can pick up where I left off
Capitalism is an economic system characterised by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined by competition in a free market.
It's purely the market forces acting
No one taken seriously has said that state intervention is socialism
In the debates I've had of this topic with you, you argue for why interventiinism is not "capitalist," which is a completely different argument than saying "interventionism is socialist"
You never reach your conclusion
Anything that intervenes in the market is a socialist policy
Thats my conclusion
There is no capitalist economy today
If the majority of the economy is dominated by market forces it is capitalist
By any genuine definition, you are wrong
You have your own definition of socialism, one you've given the word yourself
@Ghost of Descartes Nope
Your definition of socialism is "anything that is not capitalist"
Not really, many other people have the same defintion as me
which is childish
No they don't
Socialism is worker or state control
of the economy
They do
Wrong
Somewhat correct, but let me fix it
The state doesnt control the econony
Yes it does in a socialist economy
In todays world
Capitalism has existed
well thats debatable, but we'll save that for after
It does exist
When?
I don't see a free market
feel free to point one out tho
There are markets
But those are not capitalist
a market economy is not a capitalist economy