Message from @Ghost of Descartes

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2019-01-31 17:53:59 UTC  

Yes

2019-01-31 17:54:02 UTC  

Yes capitalism doesn't exist

2019-01-31 17:54:04 UTC  

and no you can't

2019-01-31 17:54:08 UTC  

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAH

2019-01-31 17:54:12 UTC  

You're going to go on to explain how intervention isn't capitalist, I've had this debate with you, but you at best wind up proving how it is a corporatist policy, and never reach your conclusion of it being socialist @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

2019-01-31 17:54:14 UTC  

any intervention in the market is not capitalism

2019-01-31 17:54:24 UTC  

You have an extremely personalized definition of socialism

2019-01-31 17:54:30 UTC  

Alright but only one person at a time

2019-01-31 17:54:31 UTC  

one or two

2019-01-31 17:54:39 UTC  

Just respond to me then, since I've said the most

2019-01-31 17:54:51 UTC  

aight

2019-01-31 17:55:01 UTC  

I have to leave for work soon. but I think the others can pick up where I left off

2019-01-31 17:55:19 UTC  

Capitalism is an economic system characterised by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined by competition in a free market.

2019-01-31 17:55:29 UTC  

It's purely the market forces acting

2019-01-31 17:55:29 UTC  

No one taken seriously has said that state intervention is socialism

2019-01-31 17:55:31 UTC  

In the debates I've had of this topic with you, you argue for why interventiinism is not "capitalist," which is a completely different argument than saying "interventionism is socialist"

2019-01-31 17:55:38 UTC  

You never reach your conclusion

2019-01-31 17:55:40 UTC  

Anything that intervenes in the market is a socialist policy

2019-01-31 17:55:44 UTC  

Thats my conclusion

2019-01-31 17:55:55 UTC  

There is no capitalist economy today

2019-01-31 17:56:06 UTC  

If the majority of the economy is dominated by market forces it is capitalist

2019-01-31 17:56:10 UTC  

By any genuine definition, you are wrong

2019-01-31 17:56:22 UTC  

You have your own definition of socialism, one you've given the word yourself

2019-01-31 17:56:32 UTC  

Your definition of socialism is "anything that is not capitalist"

2019-01-31 17:56:36 UTC  

Socialism is workers control of the economy

2019-01-31 17:56:36 UTC  

Not really, many other people have the same defintion as me

2019-01-31 17:56:37 UTC  

which is childish

2019-01-31 17:56:40 UTC  

No they don't

2019-01-31 17:56:40 UTC  

Socialism is worker or state control

2019-01-31 17:56:43 UTC  

of the economy

2019-01-31 17:56:45 UTC  

They do

2019-01-31 17:56:45 UTC  

Wrong

2019-01-31 17:56:54 UTC  

Somewhat correct, but let me fix it

2019-01-31 17:56:57 UTC  

The state doesnt control the econony

2019-01-31 17:57:02 UTC  

Yes it does in a socialist economy

2019-01-31 17:57:03 UTC  

In todays world

2019-01-31 17:57:14 UTC  

Capitalism has existed

2019-01-31 17:57:16 UTC  

well thats debatable, but we'll save that for after

2019-01-31 17:57:17 UTC  

It does exist

2019-01-31 17:57:19 UTC  

When?