Message from PureDureSure in Charlottesville 2.0 #virginia_laws


2017-07-28 02:04:46 UTC  

@Kurt 👍

2017-07-29 03:00:49 UTC  

Thats very bad advice

2017-07-29 03:00:55 UTC  

Stop giving bad legal advice unless you're a lawyer

2017-07-29 03:01:27 UTC  

You literally cut out the part for how it's about wearing respirators and masks in the process of working a job

2017-07-29 03:04:22 UTC  

"engaged in professions, trades, employment or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer"

2017-07-29 03:05:14 UTC  

"or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer" means the law covers it. if antifa or cops are slinging pepper spray is that not deemed necessary for your physical safety?

2017-07-29 03:05:18 UTC  

Are you a lawyer?

2017-07-29 03:05:37 UTC  

no its called reading comprehension

2017-07-29 03:16:09 UTC  

"It shall be unlawful for any person over 16 years of age to, with the intent to conceal his identity," this part also nullifies wearing a respirator and sunglasses being a crime since your intent is for personal protection from chemical agents and not to conceal your identity

2017-07-29 03:20:23 UTC  

Is this also the section where we give bad lifting advice?

2017-07-29 04:09:11 UTC  

Intent seems to be a key word there

And what is the definition of "other activities"?

2017-07-29 04:13:01 UTC  

I do know a Virginia lawyer... I'll inquire

2017-07-29 12:09:29 UTC  

@Melektaus that is horrible advice. If you wear any kind of face covering material (except sunglasses) you will be arrested and charged with a felony

2017-07-29 12:10:15 UTC  

Most riot police will not stop to hear your "comprehension" of the law as they arrest you

2017-07-29 14:39:57 UTC  

@SaintCharles Its best to let people do as they wish, if they don't follow laws , thats on them. I've tried helping but people insist to resist the advice

2017-07-29 15:11:56 UTC  

I'm clear on the VA provisions for open carry from the above. Thank you!

That said, do we anticipate any part of the public event(s) taking place in one of the numerous localities/settings to which specific prohibitions apply? Do we have men who plan to open carry?

I'm seriously contemplating a full-size pistol in a drop-leg platform.

2017-07-29 15:23:48 UTC  

@PureDureSure no place we will be will prohibit carry. However open carry is highly frowned upon

2017-07-29 15:24:10 UTC  

conceal it.

2017-07-29 15:27:28 UTC  

Thank you, @Kurt . I may have to forego carrying a gun, then. I don't have an active CWP of any description/jurisdiction.

2017-07-29 15:29:25 UTC  

so get one.

2017-07-29 15:34:13 UTC  

I'm going to try, but doubt they'll turn the application around in less than two weeks' time (they claim a 90-day potential maximum).

2017-07-29 15:34:44 UTC  

depends on the state

2017-07-29 15:37:26 UTC  

Depends on the county

2017-07-29 15:55:47 UTC  

Not that they would ever have reason to so much as know where we're lodging, but on the 0.1% chance they were to take some interest in it, would VA law look with disdain on the presence of some hardware in the house in which we're bedding down?

2017-07-29 16:01:00 UTC  

VA is a fire arm friendly state... hell it is an open carry state

2017-07-29 16:22:31 UTC  

I got mine back in a week so I would try and see what happens

2017-07-29 16:25:47 UTC  

I dunno it doesn't take a $200/hr lawyer to read and understand one sentence but that's just me. I doubt anyone will be tackled to the ground and cuffed because you pulled out and donned a respirator if antifa started spewing pepper spray.

2017-07-29 17:09:43 UTC  

It all depends on the state and the town, in RI it can take from 2 weeks for some of the town permits to over 6mo for CCW from the attorney general then states like NJ or NY can take years

2017-07-29 17:10:57 UTC  

Take it for what it's worth, but LEO's arrested a bunch of Antifa for masking up after tear gas was deployed.

2017-07-29 17:11:26 UTC  

At the Klan rally recently.

2017-07-29 19:09:36 UTC  

"We tried to gas you but you tried to protect yourself from it now you're under arrest"

2017-07-29 19:17:18 UTC  

Law and law enforcement doesn't always make sense, but it is what it is.

2017-07-29 20:40:23 UTC  

@Melektaus @Johnny O'Malley they arrested a man dressed up in joker face paint and charged him with a felony

2017-07-29 20:41:08 UTC  

They're going to remember who wears any kind of mask and will arrest you the first chance they get.

2017-07-29 23:42:19 UTC  

I concede. I forget police aren't on our side. Yet.

2017-07-30 03:17:37 UTC  

Most of them are in Philly lol

2017-07-30 07:29:23 UTC  

Well the face paint joker was a special case, it was some guy dressed up as the joker in carrying around a sword which is legal to carry a sword but they wanted to arrest him and used that as an excuse.

2017-07-30 07:29:41 UTC  

so it means what they want it to mean

2017-07-30 19:44:41 UTC  

When they have political demonstations happening with two aggravated sides, they WILL arrest you for covering your face

2017-07-30 19:46:01 UTC  

@here so what is the conclusion on open carry? I want a sound and solid take on it.

What I mean is, who here has talked to the Cville police about our options for open carry because the 3%ers are always at these things with their guns out right?

2017-07-30 19:47:48 UTC  

@Mack Albion
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