@Johnny O'Malley Haha really? A pair of sunglasses will mitigate most of the debilitating effects of pepper spray, but not a nice thick cloud of CS

Yeah but as soon as you get away from the cs and clap your arms a little you're fine. Great for allergies and sinuses. Last time I Personally got maced I was down for about 15- 20 mins

Yeah it sure is good for your sinuses alright, will clear them right out 😄

Pepper spray is probably more likely to be deployed at this event than cs gas though, i'm willing to guess

Is there any law restricting the type of flag poles we bring? Im willing to look up statutes but no idea what sort of statute would restrict this

@WhiteTrash I haven't seen it mentioned. Are you wanting to bring something weird?

no

was just gonna get a dowel rod or something

or buy a flagpole off amazon..whatever

That part in the law about protective devices is for people who are actively employed in a business that requires them to use protective gear

Not just anyone wearing protective gear

Nathan is checking with the police on flagpoles because there was some concerns over them being construed as weapons. He is supposed to make an announcement about it as soon as he finds out something

Kkk had flag poles no?

I believe so. On live hours last night he said that the police were going to try and control the group's getting into the park and the flag post may not be allowed but they are going to follow up

Poles

i'm gonna be there early before they control so whatever

only real question is AK47 or AR15

i kid i don'te ven have any funs

but i do have lots of flags

@greg-ky VA is not CA or DC. The police cannot under pretty much any circumstances prevent you from carrying anything that is not explictly illegal by state law. You can open carry a sword if you want, as long as you do not brandish it. Nathan doesn't understand how the law works here, which is why he said that.

@Kurt 👍

Thats very bad advice

Stop giving bad legal advice unless you're a lawyer

You literally cut out the part for how it's about wearing respirators and masks in the process of working a job

"engaged in professions, trades, employment or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer"

"or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer" means the law covers it. if antifa or cops are slinging pepper spray is that not deemed necessary for your physical safety?

Are you a lawyer?

no its called reading comprehension

"It shall be unlawful for any person over 16 years of age to, with the intent to conceal his identity," this part also nullifies wearing a respirator and sunglasses being a crime since your intent is for personal protection from chemical agents and not to conceal your identity

Is this also the section where we give bad lifting advice?

Intent seems to be a key word there

And what is the definition of "other activities"?

I do know a Virginia lawyer... I'll inquire

@Melektaus that is horrible advice. If you wear any kind of face covering material (except sunglasses) you will be arrested and charged with a felony

Most riot police will not stop to hear your "comprehension" of the law as they arrest you

@SaintCharles Its best to let people do as they wish, if they don't follow laws , thats on them. I've tried helping but people insist to resist the advice

I'm clear on the VA provisions for open carry from the above. Thank you!

That said, do we anticipate any part of the public event(s) taking place in one of the numerous localities/settings to which specific prohibitions apply? Do we have men who plan to open carry?

I'm seriously contemplating a full-size pistol in a drop-leg platform.

@PureDureSure no place we will be will prohibit carry. However open carry is highly frowned upon

conceal it.

Thank you, @Kurt . I may have to forego carrying a gun, then. I don't have an active CWP of any description/jurisdiction.

so get one.

I'm going to try, but doubt they'll turn the application around in less than two weeks' time (they claim a 90-day potential maximum).