Message from @HadrianEtAntinous

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2019-11-09 14:17:53 UTC  

They always either "misunderstood" or the meds are making them crazy

2019-11-09 14:18:00 UTC  

This one chick who kept saying she didn't find "muh white bois" attractive?

2019-11-09 14:18:14 UTC  

To the fuckin gallows

2019-11-09 14:18:22 UTC  

Definitely

2019-11-09 14:19:48 UTC  

Idk if this is true but I have heard that apparently one time when someone accused William Luther Pierce of being "racist" he half-jokingly replied "I'm not racist, only whites will hang on the day of the rope".

2019-11-09 14:19:58 UTC  

Pretty funny either way

2019-11-09 14:20:01 UTC  

Not really. Look at one flew over a cuckoo's nest; a good portion of the main cast are sane, but the majority are ill. The sick just don't get as much screen time due to how the audience can't relate as much. @Lucien

2019-11-09 14:21:03 UTC  

Also, every story needs conflict and a slow recovery isn't as engaging as some one wrongly locked up.

2019-11-09 14:24:18 UTC  

Also because most major directors aren't competent enough to portray mental illness

2019-11-09 14:24:23 UTC  

in a meaningful way

2019-11-09 14:44:06 UTC  

@HadrianEtAntinous @The State hungary doesnt have bullshit leftist courses btw, foreigners who know how to speak english though get attend the uni FOR FREE

2019-11-09 14:45:17 UTC  

Thats why Debreczin has above average arabs, asians and blacks, even US mutts.

2019-11-09 15:08:50 UTC  

@yThos Well I think you just accidentally answered why there's such a race mixing problem. As we highlighted with post colonial theory and black nationalism among other things derided, a lot it isn't bullshit; a huge portion of leftist stuff is genuinely good political philosophy needed for a complete understanding of the social sciences. There's a reason we, as fascists, object to being called mere rightwingers, for we also take a lot from the left. The left isn't entirely bullshit; it can often be based, just as much as the right.

2019-11-09 15:10:54 UTC  

In fact, maybe even more so.

2019-11-09 15:11:15 UTC  

Tbh I don't get the objection to being called "right-wing". Yes, fascism does not seek to be "far-right" for the sake of being "far-right", but our values such as order, tradition, and the like are rightist as opposed to the leftist values of progressivism and egalitarianism.

2019-11-09 15:15:19 UTC  

@The State Progressivism is stupid, but on egalitarianism, don't straw man the left; Karl Marx himself wrote extensively on why equality is too vague a goal and often counterproductive and bad to pursue, even at times considering himself anti-egalitarian. Just look at the socialist maxim; different people have different needs and different people have different abilities.

2019-11-09 15:23:48 UTC  

They reject hierarchy as something inherently evil, thus they are egalitarian.

Not to mention the nature of the progressivism within leftism essentially makes the left partake in a "perpetual revolution" against even their own status quo. So long as you use "leftist" language, and don't return to whatever might be perceived as "tradition", you are good. For example, there are recorded private letters between Marx and Engels where they mocked homosexual behavior, and even more radical on that question have been a few communist thinkers. For example, I do not remember the guy's name, but there was one communist in the 20s who wrote something like "if we exterminate homosexuals, fascism will cease to exist", and others have proclaimed homosexuality to be "bourgeois decadence". However, such reasoning would not work among modern communists, who now see opposition to homosexuality as "reactionary" and "bigoted". I would not be surprised if in a decade or two, the left will adopt even more radical and strange ideas and would likely condemn certain things they condemn today as "reactionary" or "bigoted" given the perpetually revolutionary nature of their ideology. However, given that nature, whatever they turn against next will not be something leftists have fought for specifically, or something perceived of as inherently leftist, such as "anti-racism" or whatever.

2019-11-09 15:24:11 UTC  

I know that I was kind of rambling, but do you see what I mean? @HadrianEtAntinous

2019-11-09 15:27:09 UTC  

Maxim Gorky is whom you are thinking of

2019-11-09 15:29:31 UTC  

I see what you mean.

2019-11-09 15:35:16 UTC  

Also, the phrase used by Trotsky is "eternal revolution" not "perpetual revolution"

2019-11-09 16:00:06 UTC  

Tbh I wasn't even thinking about Trotskyite theory, this is just an observation of their nature

2019-11-09 16:03:56 UTC  

Though I would say that the modern leftist, even if they proclaim love of Stalin, is much more similar to Trotsky than to Stalin given how Stalin would have had some qualities they'd consider "reactionary", unlike Trotsky, or at the very least Trotsky had them to a lesser degree. Nonetheless, they likely "prefer" Stalin for the sole fact that he won out in the competition for power after the death of Lenin, and then they believe, or at least claim to believe, what Stalin said about Trotsky secretly working with "fascists" to tear down Stalin as a cope.

2019-11-09 16:12:28 UTC  

Poop

2019-11-09 16:12:34 UTC  

Pee

2019-11-09 16:13:30 UTC  

epig

2019-11-09 16:20:22 UTC  

Benis

2019-11-09 16:20:44 UTC  

Stalin is just better material for memes. Leftists tend to actually agree more with Trotsky, being the basis of antifascist theory and all.

2019-11-09 16:20:44 UTC  

Well done @HadrianEtAntinous, you just advanced to level 9!

2019-11-09 16:21:45 UTC  

forgive me brother for i have busted

2019-11-09 16:23:23 UTC  

COOMER GANG

2019-11-09 16:24:02 UTC  

I will not be a coomer

2019-11-09 16:24:07 UTC  

I will try again tomorrow

2019-11-09 16:28:01 UTC  

Honestly, I disagree with the notion that there's no end in sight with the left's progressivism. I think with Foucault's invitation for us to always think about who is asking the questions and who is allowed into the discourse and his post structuralist critique of the basis of everything we have seen the peak of how far the left can go. You can't condemn more than the set of all things; there literally is no way to critique more stuff than everything. And as such, in recent years, you can see a backlash and a subversion to the eternal revolution. Most of the recent increasing degradation of culture has just been application of that theory, and seeing how that theory is losing popularity among academics, the left at large should similarly go back to normal. @The State

2019-11-09 16:29:01 UTC  

You can't go much further than criticizing truth itself for being too hierarchical.

2019-11-09 16:39:59 UTC  

@HadrianEtAntinous I do not really see much of a backlash among leftist circles to the eternal revolution. Maybe you could consider TERFs as a backlash to the eternal revolution, but I would argue they are just another branch of it, for their reasoning is entirely based in leftist thought (transgenders are men trying to oppress women in their own spaces and what not). Not to mention how they have had contradictory ideals for a very long time now and they've had enough cognitive dissonance to deal with it until now, I don't see why they won't stop. The eternal revolution is a natural extension of leftist thinking.

2019-11-09 16:40:16 UTC  

There must always be a social oppression to fight for them, not matter what.

2019-11-09 16:45:36 UTC  

i want a TLDR of this convo

2019-11-09 16:45:58 UTC  

n werd

2019-11-09 16:49:54 UTC  

Yeah, I agree they're always going to fight for something, even if that something changes or their paradigm on how changes, because if they didn't struggle they wouldn't be the left. But those changes should not be underestimated.

Indeed, I would say that with the proper adjustments, it's almost Nietzschen, almost fascistic in the continual pursuit of improvement regardless of how things are; that Evolan riding of the tiger. In fact, I find it interesting the similarities between this description of the left and various critiques I have heard of fascism; the claims that when we get power we end up running in circles continually purifying ourselves and that we're fundamentally unstable when in charge. Perhaps we share that innate ideological righteousness with left.