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2019-10-08 13:22:14 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #auto-roles]  

!nationalist

2019-10-08 13:22:20 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #auto-roles]  

!Orthodox

2019-10-08 13:22:26 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #auto-roles]  

!American

2019-10-08 13:22:47 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #auto-roles]  

!NationalSocialist

2019-10-08 13:24:09 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Tomatoes are tolerable but I wouldn't go out of my way to eat them

2019-10-08 22:24:15 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Ah yes, North Korea is based because they maintain their culture of ensuring their whole populations gets damned to hell with state atheism and churches for diplomats, and le epic brutalist architecture

2019-10-08 22:24:34 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Nothing says traditionalism and cultural preservation like massive disgusting concrete slobs

2019-10-08 22:27:25 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

If brutalism is your tradition then you should through out your tradition

2019-10-09 00:11:18 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Well they were Austrian nationalists

2019-10-09 00:11:28 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Naturally they would oppose union with Germany

2019-10-10 17:27:56 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Jews dying of disease doesn't prove the Holocaust happened

2019-10-10 17:28:35 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Holocaust was supposed to be a deliberate extermination, which did not happen.

2019-10-10 17:29:09 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

There have been no documents found of anyone in the German government ordering the extermination of any group, let alone jews.

2019-10-10 20:24:01 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Poll is extremely cringe

2019-10-10 20:24:14 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Imagine thinking it belongs to Ir*sh

2019-10-10 20:24:39 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

If the Troubles start again I'm going to Northern Ireland to join the UVF

2019-10-10 20:25:05 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Okay well it isn't Irish, it is Ulster Irish which are ethnic Scots for the most part

2019-10-10 20:25:29 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

How?

2019-10-10 20:25:39 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Ulster Irish ARE NOT Irish, they're Scots mostly

2019-10-10 20:25:54 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Yeah from like the 1600s mate

2019-10-10 20:26:18 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

>doesn't even know when Ulster Plantations began

2019-10-10 20:27:12 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

This is the same logic that libtards use to say the American southwest belongs to Mexico or the entire US belongs to Indians just because 'they were there first"

2019-10-10 20:28:01 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

So basically you're saying the only mistake of the English was not to exterminate the Irish?

2019-10-10 20:28:25 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Ever heard of Belfast? @Mankn II

2019-10-10 20:28:39 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Ulster Irish have been there for centuries

2019-10-10 20:28:49 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Longer than whites have been in the US in some cases

2019-10-10 20:29:00 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Irish are also a minority

2019-10-10 20:29:05 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Ulster Irish are a majority

2019-10-10 20:29:21 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

There is a reason they remained a part of the UK in the first place

2019-10-10 20:29:39 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

And it was because they were more strongly opposed to Irish independence than anyone else

2019-10-10 20:32:11 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

A bit different considering that the Jews did not fight for the land themselves but had the UK, US, and UN do it for them in the first place.

2019-10-10 20:34:14 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Should Japan be given back to the Ainu from the Korean invaders who are most modern Japanese? Should Portugal be given back to the Celts from the Roman invaders? Should the southwestern US be given back to Mexico? Should the entirety of the Americas be given back to the Indians (at the very least those still around)? @Mankn II

2019-10-10 20:35:26 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Even then, Ireland was never unified before the English/British invasions, they were mostly fighting between themselves, some even allied with the English.

2019-10-10 20:35:31 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

What strawmen?

2019-10-10 20:36:04 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

>invaders that have been there for 400+ years

2019-10-10 20:36:52 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

"The Plantation of Ulster (Irish: Plandรกil Uladh; Ulster-Scots: Plantin o Ulstรจr)[1] was the organised colonisation (plantation) of Ulster โ€“ a province of Ireland โ€“ by people from Great Britain during the reign of King James VI & I. Most of the colonists came from Scotland, the majority having a different culture to the natives. Small private plantations by wealthy landowners began in 1606,[2] while the official plantation began in 1609."

2019-10-10 20:38:16 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

@Mankn II Also you do realize that the Great Potato Famine was in fact caused by Ireland's own reliance of potatoes and the potato crop got fucked not just in Ireland but all over Europe at the time?

2019-10-10 20:38:29 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

The Irish could have diversified the crops they grew but they didn't

2019-10-10 20:38:31 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Their fault

2019-10-10 20:39:22 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

No, it was caused by the nature of Irish farming techniques.

2019-10-10 20:39:37 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

The English wanted to modernize Irish farming but they were stuck in the past

2019-10-10 20:40:17 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

@Mankn II They sent aid to Ireland

2019-10-10 20:41:06 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Based

2019-10-10 20:42:28 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

They were shit because the free traders in Parliament wanted to use it as an opportunity to impose free trade policy on agricultural products, which the protectionists in power did not want, so they said the famine was not that bad to avoid having free trade policy imposed on Britain.

2019-10-10 20:43:11 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

They also honestly did not even realize how bad it was until over a year into the famine because there was a lot of propaganda from both sides in the papers trying to justify free trade or protectionism.

2019-10-10 20:44:02 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

>they removed the grain

This is a total meme which did not even happen. Why would they "remove the grain" and destroy Ireland's chances at modernizing their farming when they wanted Ireland to modernize its farming?

2019-10-10 20:44:34 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

If the British intended to starve the Irish they could have done it with great ease

2019-10-10 20:45:08 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

The Irish still exist because of the mercy of the English and the show their thanks by bombing British kids

2019-10-10 20:45:45 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Night Runner

2019-10-10 20:45:55 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Can you please kill yourself?

2019-10-10 20:46:49 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

@Mankn II Because you know what makes sense? Starving your tenants who give you money.

2019-10-10 20:47:22 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

@Mankn II Maybe the Irish shouldn't have only fucking farmed potatoes

2019-10-10 20:47:40 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Negro was the standard term to refer to blacks until like the 1970s

2019-10-10 20:49:36 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

"Ireland was on the verge of starvation, her population rapidly increasing,"

<:oh:555739741337812992>

2019-10-10 20:49:46 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Literally nigger tier shit

2019-10-10 20:50:16 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Lainus supports the Irish because they're his fellow negroid

2019-10-10 20:50:24 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

<:emoji_33:583987505112547329>

2019-10-10 20:50:51 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

>Serb
>calls others niggers

2019-10-10 20:51:11 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

<:oh:555739741337812992>

2019-10-10 20:51:49 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

@Mankn II I support the British because if we use the Irish's logic to justify why Ulster belongs to them, the US would have to surrender all its land

2019-10-10 20:52:17 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

@Juan Filly Does America belong to the Indians then?

2019-10-10 20:52:44 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

@Juan Filly Ulster Irish are a majority in Northern Ireland

2019-10-10 20:52:59 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

@Mankn II So basically the English should have just exterminated the Irish

2019-10-10 20:53:00 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Epic

2019-10-10 20:53:45 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Also what about the reservations on which the Indians still live? What about countries like Peru where 65% of the population is Indian? Should they expel the whites?

2019-10-10 20:54:18 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

>Irish
>not savages

2019-10-10 20:54:21 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Cringe

2019-10-10 20:54:32 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Read some accounts from literally anyone observing the Irish

2019-10-10 20:54:52 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Romans, Normans, Vikings, they all said the Irish were primitive and degenerate

2019-10-10 20:55:27 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Yes the Americans fabricated documents from the Romans, Vikings, and Normans calling them savages

2019-10-10 20:56:00 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

@Mankn II They said the Irish were especially savage, were incestuous, were homosexuals, etc.

2019-10-10 20:56:11 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Especially primitive

2019-10-10 20:56:29 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Also Caesar praised the Gauls while fighting them

2019-10-10 20:56:53 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Tacitus literally wrote a book glorifying the Germans

2019-10-10 20:57:18 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Nothing positive was ever said about the Irish though

2019-10-10 20:57:55 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Romans were also pissed that Caesar was also treating them like shit

2019-10-10 20:58:04 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Romans have observers in Ireland

2019-10-10 20:58:16 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Just because they didn't conquer a place doesn't mean they never made notes about them

2019-10-10 20:58:23 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Edgy

2019-10-10 20:58:41 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

England has more culture than the Ir*sh

2019-10-10 20:59:03 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

You realize without England Portugal would not exist?

2019-10-10 20:59:24 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

It'd have been annexed by Spain

2019-10-10 20:59:41 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Seems pretty ungrateful to want to "sink" them

2019-10-10 21:00:32 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

You literally would not exist without England

2019-10-10 21:00:59 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

And are you seriously saying the British didn't do much in the Peninsular Campaign?

2019-10-10 21:01:00 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Lmao

2019-10-10 21:01:48 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Yeah because Portuguese were being good allies

2019-10-10 21:02:22 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

"English didn't do much"

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2019-10-10 21:04:37 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Well I don't know about the coup thing so maybe you're right but in what way did Portugal have a right to the "Pink Map"? British wanted to a Cape Town to Cairo railroad.

2019-10-10 21:05:13 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Portugal had nothing beyond claims to the land

2019-10-10 21:05:19 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

No means to actually enforce it

2019-10-10 21:05:51 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

It would be more like you actually have a PS4, I claim sovereignty over the TV, but then you actually buy it

2019-10-10 21:06:38 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

Buying from a third party, not from you yourself in terms of the analogy

2019-10-10 21:07:17 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

And again, they wanted a railroad that was only not built because the Germans got in the way, and the Germans were a lot more powerful than the Portuguese so they could actually enforce their own claims

2019-10-10 21:08:59 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

I remember I saw an animated map showing the control that European powers had over African land (as opposed to just claims) over time and Portugal did not have effective control over any major part of Africa until the 1890s

2019-10-10 21:09:04 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

After the Scramble for Africa

2019-10-10 21:12:18 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

"While Stanley was exploring Congo on behalf of Leopold II of Belgium, the Franco-Italian marine officer Pierre de Brazza travelled into the western Congo basin and raised the French flag over the newly founded Brazzaville in 1881, thus occupying today's Republic of the Congo. Portugal, which also claimed the area due to old treaties with the native Kongo Empire, made a treaty with Britain on 26 February 1884 to block off the Congo Society's access to the Atlantic."

This is the closest thing I found that relates to what you described but even then it isn't as you portrayed it.

2019-10-10 21:13:20 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

"but which the United Kingdom claimed on the basis of effective occupation."

Meaning the UK had de facto control anyway

2019-10-10 21:15:34 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

From your own extract
"the United Kingdom claimed on the basis of effective occupation."
"claimed by Portugal on the basis of historical discovery and recent exploration"

The UK's claim is stronger

2019-10-10 21:15:59 UTC [Imperium Nostrum #walls-of-rome]  

"EFFECTIVE OCCUPATION"

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