Message from @Jack of Trades
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No, kiddy fiddling and murderous oppression happens *despite* Christianity. Big difference.
@Scale_e that's basically true, but not entirely.
Ah yes because before the enlightenment Christians didn’t oppress people
@lunemarie the enlightenment required Christianity I believe
Think of all of the cool things that got swallowed by Christianity and painted as evil like Necromancy
Or pagan holidays
Nature Worship
Define "oppress" and "people"
big-tiddy demon chicks
Without Christianity... more or less oppression in the world?
Less
Heck even trick or treating is stolen from pagans and bastardised further from there
@Hommedaction requiring you not to be a fuck waffle is oppression
@Scale_e probably about the same. But by different people
and in different ways
The enlightenment was literally trying out classical philosophy again despite Christianity
Speaking of Christians and oppressing others....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hussite_Wars
And I mean that seriously, society does oppress us, but that's not neccesarily bad
Don't compare to utopia here. 20th century atheism oppressed more and in worse ways than christianity
St.patrick coming to Ireland to chase out the 'snakes' as in the druids, the pagan religion
@leavethisbotnet you're confusing communism with atheism
@lunemarie crusades
Atheism doesn't lead to anything, literally
@Nat you mean the justified were against Muslim invaders?
I'm not just talking about communism
Ultimately Christianity recognised it can be more free and from then on Christianity was in decline
So... before Christianity... when we literally just jumped in boats and raped and pillaged our neighbors for shits and giggles... when we had human sacrifices to appease totemic spirits.
...that was *less* oppression?
it's nazism and fascism also
Yes @Jack of Trades
that largely resulted from it
And Christians still did that @Scale_e <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>
ah yes, we never raped and pillaged and had human sacrifices in christian times
Without Christianity we’d be kneeling towards mecca rn
@leavethisbotnet nazism resulted from bad ideas and German aristocrats indulging in half baked occultism
It's pretty much the same oppression just in different flavours, but at least before Christianity there was some originality
Without Christianity there'd be no islam
And yes, there are atheists who aren't bad, but there were many christians who didn't oppress anybody too, yet you're judging christianity on the whole
@Jewsader I doubt that