No, kiddy fiddling and murderous oppression happens *despite* Christianity. Big difference.

@Scale_e that's basically true, but not entirely.

Ah yes because before the enlightenment Christians didn’t oppress people

@lunemarie the enlightenment required Christianity I believe

Think of all of the cool things that got swallowed by Christianity and painted as evil like Necromancy

Or pagan holidays

Nature Worship

Define "oppress" and "people"

big-tiddy demon chicks

Without Christianity... more or less oppression in the world?

Less

Heck even trick or treating is stolen from pagans and bastardised further from there

@Hommedaction requiring you not to be a fuck waffle is oppression

@Scale_e probably about the same. But by different people

and in different ways

The enlightenment was literally trying out classical philosophy again despite Christianity

Speaking of Christians and oppressing others....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hussite_Wars

And I mean that seriously, society does oppress us, but that's not neccesarily bad

Don't compare to utopia here. 20th century atheism oppressed more and in worse ways than christianity

@lunemarie with a twist though

St.patrick coming to Ireland to chase out the 'snakes' as in the druids, the pagan religion

@leavethisbotnet you're confusing communism with atheism

@lunemarie crusades

Atheism doesn't lead to anything, literally

@Nat you mean the justified were against Muslim invaders?

I'm not just talking about communism

Ultimately Christianity recognised it can be more free and from then on Christianity was in decline

So... before Christianity... when we literally just jumped in boats and raped and pillaged our neighbors for shits and giggles... when we had human sacrifices to appease totemic spirits.
...that was *less* oppression?

it's nazism and fascism also

Yes @Jack of Trades

that largely resulted from it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albigensian_Crusade
GG guys

And Christians still did that @Scale_e <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

ah yes, we never raped and pillaged and had human sacrifices in christian times

Without Christianity we’d be kneeling towards mecca rn

@leavethisbotnet nazism resulted from bad ideas and German aristocrats indulging in half baked occultism

It's pretty much the same oppression just in different flavours, but at least before Christianity there was some originality

Without Christianity there'd be no islam

And yes, there are atheists who aren't bad, but there were many christians who didn't oppress anybody too, yet you're judging christianity on the whole

@Jewsader I doubt that

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