Don't compare to utopia here. 20th century atheism oppressed more and in worse ways than christianity

@lunemarie with a twist though

St.patrick coming to Ireland to chase out the 'snakes' as in the druids, the pagan religion

@leavethisbotnet you're confusing communism with atheism

@lunemarie crusades

Atheism doesn't lead to anything, literally

@Nat you mean the justified were against Muslim invaders?

I'm not just talking about communism

Ultimately Christianity recognised it can be more free and from then on Christianity was in decline

So... before Christianity... when we literally just jumped in boats and raped and pillaged our neighbors for shits and giggles... when we had human sacrifices to appease totemic spirits.
...that was *less* oppression?

it's nazism and fascism also

Yes @Jack of Trades

that largely resulted from it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albigensian_Crusade
GG guys

And Christians still did that @Scale_e <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

ah yes, we never raped and pillaged and had human sacrifices in christian times

Without Christianity we’d be kneeling towards mecca rn

@leavethisbotnet nazism resulted from bad ideas and German aristocrats indulging in half baked occultism

It's pretty much the same oppression just in different flavours, but at least before Christianity there was some originality

Without Christianity there'd be no islam

And yes, there are atheists who aren't bad, but there were many christians who didn't oppress anybody too, yet you're judging christianity on the whole

@Jewsader I doubt that

@Jewsader <:BIGBRAIN:501101491428392991>

Therefore christianity ruined everything

I think you mean

without JUDAISM

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Islam is the fan fiction but the fucked up author was still around

So the addition of Christianity... didn’t bring about *more* oppression. And, ultimately we ended up with a lot less.

@leavethisbotnet not really, christianity doesn't really have a whole.

If I were to espouse a religion it would be the cult of ancestors

He would’ve found a different fan club to invade

Because Christianity was violent before it accepted reform as in the enlightenment

@Scale_e I disagree, there was quite a bit of Christian generated oppression.

At the end of the day, people will organise behind different faiths whether they're secular or religious. We're all just trying to make the best of living with ourselves or each other

Judaism is the mediocre first fanfic. Christianity is the most popular fanfic. Islam is the shitty fanfic that the author made while drunk and drugged

The idea that you're accountable to your ancestors and that they will watch over you if you behave correctly sounds like a good one to me

Ultimately Christianity was a regression from the so called pagan gods of Greco-roman times

@Hommedaction im chill with stoicism

If I were to espouse a religion it’d be unironic satanism tbh

which satanism