Message from @Death in June

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2019-09-28 19:54:38 UTC  

that is, the state forcefully privatizing collectively owned farms, forcing farmers to flee to the cities and work for capitalists or die

2019-09-28 19:54:47 UTC  

The people don't regulate the economy @The Electric Lizard

2019-09-28 19:54:55 UTC  

Lazze-Faire Capitalism

2019-09-28 19:54:55 UTC  

through what organization will the people regulate the economy

2019-09-28 19:55:01 UTC  

market transactions?

2019-09-28 19:55:07 UTC  

Honestly, do something like deregulate food?

2019-09-28 19:55:08 UTC  

They should and will if the Government stops it

2019-09-28 19:55:10 UTC  

Yeah it;ll get cheaper

2019-09-28 19:55:17 UTC  

But they don't. @The Electric Lizard

2019-09-28 19:55:17 UTC  

but you'll probably get ill

2019-09-28 19:55:21 UTC  

They will

2019-09-28 19:55:25 UTC  

What you're saying and what happens in practice are different.

2019-09-28 19:55:35 UTC  

De regulate cars

2019-09-28 19:55:46 UTC  

Seatbelts are a needless expense. @Joshu

2019-09-28 19:55:47 UTC  

turn any city into bejing for smog

2019-09-28 19:55:48 UTC  

good one

2019-09-28 19:55:49 UTC  

Added extra.

2019-09-28 19:55:50 UTC  

Medieval Monarchies barely intervened in the economy and it worked to an extent

2019-09-28 19:56:09 UTC  

Except they were at war with themselves non stop

2019-09-28 19:56:11 UTC  

and others

2019-09-28 19:56:13 UTC  

i mean that's not necessarily true

2019-09-28 19:56:28 UTC  

however that was a mix of authoritarian regime too

2019-09-28 19:56:28 UTC  

and also in the middle ages there were intermediary organizations that intervened in the economy

2019-09-28 19:56:30 UTC  

like guilds

2019-09-28 19:56:49 UTC  

@The Electric Lizard and everyone was miserable except the nobles who could get away with anything they want

2019-09-28 19:56:49 UTC  

and property was often awarded based on service to the state

2019-09-28 19:56:54 UTC  

as in military service

2019-09-28 19:57:06 UTC  

Also in the middle ages we had things like...villains

2019-09-28 19:57:11 UTC  

Not comic book ones

2019-09-28 19:57:20 UTC  

people who were owned from birth by the lord of the manor

2019-09-28 19:57:33 UTC  

it's not really comparable to laissez faire capitalism too much, though you could say it's comparable to anarcho-capitalism in that the state itself was privately owned

2019-09-28 19:57:42 UTC  

That's just capitalism baby. It was an agreement between two peoples! @Joshu

2019-09-28 19:57:51 UTC  

Contract slavery is okay!

2019-09-28 19:57:54 UTC  

Don't get too happy

2019-09-28 19:57:55 UTC  

Just don't sign the contract!

2019-09-28 19:58:00 UTC  

Your ideology is at fault too

2019-09-28 19:58:03 UTC  

being a serf was often better than being a wage laborer

2019-09-28 19:58:10 UTC  

No no, mine is fine 🙂

2019-09-28 19:58:17 UTC  

though the degree to which serfdom sucked varied

2019-09-28 19:58:26 UTC  

It was the authortarianism of the lords that kept it going

2019-09-28 19:58:26 UTC  

among place and time