Message from @Joshu

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2019-09-28 19:53:13 UTC  

I don't think that's correct, the state only has blunt tools

2019-09-28 19:53:14 UTC  

Prohibition for instance

2019-09-28 19:53:16 UTC  

If the people are content, they're fine

2019-09-28 19:53:24 UTC  

Which is why...ium a liberal

2019-09-28 19:53:30 UTC  

because im not blind to either side

2019-09-28 19:53:32 UTC  

It shows what excessive Government intervention and regulation is a bad thing

2019-09-28 19:53:35 UTC  

so it's not that it messes things up, it's just not able

2019-09-28 19:53:38 UTC  

the accumulation of private property that capitalism is based on is a product of state intervention

2019-09-28 19:53:46 UTC  

"excessive Government intervention"

2019-09-28 19:53:50 UTC  

Yes thats the key phrase

2019-09-28 19:53:53 UTC  

thanks for making my point

2019-09-28 19:54:13 UTC  

not only in the sense that it exists by virtue of laws that are upheld by the force wielded by the state but also in the sense that it came to be through state intervention

2019-09-28 19:54:19 UTC  

Excessive is the key word

2019-09-28 19:54:22 UTC  

Excessive Government intervention is a key problem, Lower levels are better but still need to be stopped

2019-09-28 19:54:35 UTC  

Just let the people regulate the economy

2019-09-28 19:54:38 UTC  

that is, the state forcefully privatizing collectively owned farms, forcing farmers to flee to the cities and work for capitalists or die

2019-09-28 19:54:47 UTC  

The people don't regulate the economy @The Electric Lizard

2019-09-28 19:54:55 UTC  

Lazze-Faire Capitalism

2019-09-28 19:54:55 UTC  

through what organization will the people regulate the economy

2019-09-28 19:55:01 UTC  

market transactions?

2019-09-28 19:55:07 UTC  

Honestly, do something like deregulate food?

2019-09-28 19:55:08 UTC  

They should and will if the Government stops it

2019-09-28 19:55:10 UTC  

Yeah it;ll get cheaper

2019-09-28 19:55:17 UTC  

But they don't. @The Electric Lizard

2019-09-28 19:55:17 UTC  

but you'll probably get ill

2019-09-28 19:55:21 UTC  

They will

2019-09-28 19:55:25 UTC  

What you're saying and what happens in practice are different.

2019-09-28 19:55:35 UTC  

De regulate cars

2019-09-28 19:55:46 UTC  

Seatbelts are a needless expense. @Joshu

2019-09-28 19:55:47 UTC  

turn any city into bejing for smog

2019-09-28 19:55:48 UTC  

good one

2019-09-28 19:55:49 UTC  

Added extra.

2019-09-28 19:55:50 UTC  

Medieval Monarchies barely intervened in the economy and it worked to an extent

2019-09-28 19:56:09 UTC  

Except they were at war with themselves non stop

2019-09-28 19:56:11 UTC  

and others

2019-09-28 19:56:13 UTC  

i mean that's not necessarily true

2019-09-28 19:56:28 UTC  

however that was a mix of authoritarian regime too

2019-09-28 19:56:28 UTC  

and also in the middle ages there were intermediary organizations that intervened in the economy

2019-09-28 19:56:30 UTC  

like guilds

2019-09-28 19:56:49 UTC  

@The Electric Lizard and everyone was miserable except the nobles who could get away with anything they want

2019-09-28 19:56:49 UTC  

and property was often awarded based on service to the state