Talking of people like that.

I have a strategy

At work there is a Socialist who think corbyn isnt left enough

Now as some context to what im about to say

My housemate is Romanian right, mate for a while and I invited him to stay with me. We work in the same office

We mate open jokes about socialism all the time etc. And seeing this dude unable to say anything because the guy from the ex socialist nation is doing it.

My god

Of course we sprinkle in some brexit.

The dude > Man that form must have been difficult, you know to get your IDR to stay after brexit

My mate > Actually it took 5 minutes online and came back in a week

The dude > Silence

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/monthly-update-concluded-investigations-11

Oh the irony

The sweet

Sweet nectar of irony

I guess the logic stands then? Remain clearly had no idea what they voted for

Not a huge surprize

however I had the case on in the background today

Lord Keen did a very good job

Near the end he dismantled the main reasoning

Which was the fact they said that MPs could recall themselves during a normal recess

(Which the prorogation straddles)

Since the actual sitting days lost was only 7

Keen explained that it was false to state they could recall themselves as it actually requires the executive first to recall them, and then for the speaker of the house to approve it "Only if it is in the national interest"

I will see if I can find the VOD of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6sr3KvcAUc

Full Afternoon session

Watch from 1:38:00 for what i explain

more like 1:39:00 actually

Inner house = Court of session, so the scottish case

So in essence, the Scottish case of an extraordinary prorogation length was built on the false fact that they thought parliament could recall itself from the recess which the prorogation straddles. (The BBC etc coverage doesn't even touch this)

we are having the US's problems

Just in a very british way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdytusXDozM This Jeff guy is pretty good

The bit at the end of the video is very very interesting

Listening to the afternoon session

The traitor side is basically just trying to compliment the court to victory

No actual statements of fact or anything yet

Compared with the morning session, which was devoid of emotion and was just solid facts

Now he is arguing that Scots law is somehow a higher standard than English high court

So therefore they should accept their decision

This is literally just poetry and emotion

He is bringing up fucking macbeth

He isn't making any points other than asking the court to rule with the Scots inner circle

Because of the fact they are the supreme Court and diversity

Yeah

He just tried to prove precedent

And lady hale disagreed and he had no real response to that

Tried to prove prorogative power was justicable with a single case

That could also be defined as a case that dealt with common law

He is essentially arguing against all forms of prorogation at this point.

His argument hinges on the court having to decide what a reasonable prorogation is

He is essentially directly calling on the court to become politically charged

Kek

Now his argument is that boris outsmarted them

You need a balance

If you have total control you get stalin

If you have total free morket you have watergate but much worse.

As with most things

Balance is key

How you balance it

Depends on the leaning of the government in power

And the voters ofc

However balance around the centre is usually very stable

Ofc it's never perfectly centre

And what once they go away we all get in big circles and sing kumbyahh?

Or do the big eat the small until there is no competition

Since competition makes life hard

One is accountable and one isn't. However you are using extremes

You are saying free market is preferable to socialism or authoritarianism

You arnt arguing for free market over a mixed economy.

I was saying "or" to include more types of auth

So lord

Watching this shit

So much emotional arguments still

So much political points

So much inference without evidence

Even the judges arnt buying it

At least less than the morning session

Less questions

More disagreements

Etc

I'm about 25 mins behind

Since I'm at work so have to pause sometimes

Not a surprise

He didn't have one anyway

Not since april

I mean Keen yesterday blew this guy out of the water

He has already addressed his points

He's been in for ages

They need a new leader anyway

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Typical redefinition to invoke an emotional reaction

Much easier to feel compassion for a "victim of the immigration system"

Than illegal immigrant

Technically parliament isn't the government

The government is boris and his party.

It's a notable definition right now

Since the government and the people are opposed to parliament

It isn't people vs government

Federal monarchy

Heard of Canada

Or austrailia