Message from @UnfilteredGarbage

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2019-09-25 13:00:45 UTC  

Also, Lunemarie is a midget - that is all

2019-09-25 13:01:01 UTC  

Hi

2019-09-25 13:01:10 UTC  

Mornin' dumdum

2019-09-25 13:01:13 UTC  

AI won’t become conscious all of a sudden but

2019-09-25 13:01:22 UTC  

The idea there isn’t enough hardware is ludicrous

2019-09-25 13:01:51 UTC  

Realistically there's enough hardware right now. It's just have a memory spanning that of a few seconds.

2019-09-25 13:01:57 UTC  

@lunemarie the brain does not really communicate or process in computer binary, is the issue. To make an AI that would effectively replicate human consciousness, you'd need a system that very accurately emulates the mechanics behind human thought, including the subjectivity and innacuracy of our minds.
Which is
a: hard as hell
B: not really beneficial

2019-09-25 13:02:10 UTC  

Aka a brain in a jar

2019-09-25 13:02:27 UTC  

I mean I guess it can be done but
Why

2019-09-25 13:02:31 UTC  

Computer binary is simple off an on not too different to a nerve.

2019-09-25 13:02:53 UTC  

The idea of binary is just a way to work with offs and ons for logic

2019-09-25 13:02:54 UTC  

Like I said before an AI would not think conceptually in a way that is even comparable to how we do let alone understandable

2019-09-25 13:03:07 UTC  

No, nerves have a different communication system built on aggregate stimuli

2019-09-25 13:03:10 UTC  

Last I heard they were creating experimenting with reproductions of brains at a functional level

2019-09-25 13:03:20 UTC  

That was some years ago

2019-09-25 13:03:34 UTC  

And they also function on a much less efficient chemical circuit, as opposed to an electrical one

2019-09-25 13:03:41 UTC  

I'm guessing you don't have a source on that @Eccles

2019-09-25 13:03:53 UTC  

And also the input senses for the human brain are extremely subjective and flawed

2019-09-25 13:03:58 UTC  

Well, it's bioelectrical

2019-09-25 13:04:04 UTC  

It’s not hard to make inaccuracy or randomness in AI though

2019-09-25 13:04:05 UTC  

^

2019-09-25 13:04:09 UTC  

You can make random noise

2019-09-25 13:04:24 UTC  

The brain is very efficient in the power it has for its size

2019-09-25 13:04:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613767975614283832/626403645772005379/5f8c34b.png

2019-09-25 13:04:34 UTC  

Size yes

2019-09-25 13:04:52 UTC  

The human brain is quite decent, but the strength is in the focus on memory and expanse on processing that memory

2019-09-25 13:04:53 UTC  

@lunemarie yeah, but random noise isn't an accurate approximation of healthy human brain subjectivity. You'd just make your computer schizo with that

2019-09-25 13:05:04 UTC  

Mechanical computers also aren't built on nearly such a small scale as the brain

2019-09-25 13:05:10 UTC  

Lmfao true but you can have degrees of randomness

2019-09-25 13:05:25 UTC  

size is irrelevent

2019-09-25 13:05:26 UTC  

You can add risk taking etc

2019-09-25 13:05:36 UTC  

Size is never irrelevant <:Kappa:386676594120589312>

2019-09-25 13:05:50 UTC  

the important thing is if they can accurately model it

2019-09-25 13:05:54 UTC  

Is the brain really random or is it all deterministic based on measurable chemicals and some such

2019-09-25 13:05:57 UTC  

moore's law will do the rest

2019-09-25 13:06:01 UTC  

The first attempts at artificial brains will probably have such horrifying results that they'll be banned globally

2019-09-25 13:06:14 UTC  

Any reason to believe that?

2019-09-25 13:06:19 UTC  

I think if we were to try and make an AI based on what we know and have right now, scholarly and hardware-wise, we'd have things that can solve something we've given it information on how to solve in a very short timespan.

2019-09-25 13:06:25 UTC  

Moores law is in decline last time I checked

2019-09-25 13:06:49 UTC  

I don't think we have anything that can truly learn on its own. So far we've made programs that tell it _how_ to learn, not that it can just learn.