Message from @Eccles

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2019-09-25 13:00:05 UTC  

The influence of the creators should be of great concern.

2019-09-25 13:00:07 UTC  

Well, he's argued the criticism as nonsense. Zero point continuing with someone like that.

2019-09-25 13:00:10 UTC  

If you cannot, then fuck off with your criticisms

2019-09-25 13:00:18 UTC  

@Jeremy kek but that's actually a good point, AI programmed deliberately or in error to be pants-on-head retarded is a more realistic danger than anything

2019-09-25 13:00:26 UTC  

Also the brain may be 1 exaflop but the brain deals with more than just intelligence which an AI wouldn’t. An AI with human brain power might be able to be more efficient and easily surpass humans.

2019-09-25 13:00:33 UTC  
2019-09-25 13:00:42 UTC  

It is basically what I would make

2019-09-25 13:00:45 UTC  

Also, Lunemarie is a midget - that is all

2019-09-25 13:01:01 UTC  

Hi

2019-09-25 13:01:10 UTC  

Mornin' dumdum

2019-09-25 13:01:13 UTC  

AI won’t become conscious all of a sudden but

2019-09-25 13:01:22 UTC  

The idea there isn’t enough hardware is ludicrous

2019-09-25 13:01:51 UTC  

Realistically there's enough hardware right now. It's just have a memory spanning that of a few seconds.

2019-09-25 13:01:57 UTC  

@lunemarie the brain does not really communicate or process in computer binary, is the issue. To make an AI that would effectively replicate human consciousness, you'd need a system that very accurately emulates the mechanics behind human thought, including the subjectivity and innacuracy of our minds.
Which is
a: hard as hell
B: not really beneficial

2019-09-25 13:02:10 UTC  

Aka a brain in a jar

2019-09-25 13:02:27 UTC  

I mean I guess it can be done but
Why

2019-09-25 13:02:31 UTC  

Computer binary is simple off an on not too different to a nerve.

2019-09-25 13:02:53 UTC  

The idea of binary is just a way to work with offs and ons for logic

2019-09-25 13:02:54 UTC  

Like I said before an AI would not think conceptually in a way that is even comparable to how we do let alone understandable

2019-09-25 13:03:07 UTC  

No, nerves have a different communication system built on aggregate stimuli

2019-09-25 13:03:10 UTC  

Last I heard they were creating experimenting with reproductions of brains at a functional level

2019-09-25 13:03:20 UTC  

That was some years ago

2019-09-25 13:03:34 UTC  

And they also function on a much less efficient chemical circuit, as opposed to an electrical one

2019-09-25 13:03:41 UTC  

I'm guessing you don't have a source on that @Eccles

2019-09-25 13:03:53 UTC  

And also the input senses for the human brain are extremely subjective and flawed

2019-09-25 13:03:58 UTC  

Well, it's bioelectrical

2019-09-25 13:04:04 UTC  

It’s not hard to make inaccuracy or randomness in AI though

2019-09-25 13:04:05 UTC  

^

2019-09-25 13:04:09 UTC  

You can make random noise

2019-09-25 13:04:24 UTC  

The brain is very efficient in the power it has for its size

2019-09-25 13:04:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613767975614283832/626403645772005379/5f8c34b.png

2019-09-25 13:04:34 UTC  

Size yes

2019-09-25 13:04:52 UTC  

The human brain is quite decent, but the strength is in the focus on memory and expanse on processing that memory

2019-09-25 13:04:53 UTC  

@lunemarie yeah, but random noise isn't an accurate approximation of healthy human brain subjectivity. You'd just make your computer schizo with that

2019-09-25 13:05:04 UTC  

Mechanical computers also aren't built on nearly such a small scale as the brain

2019-09-25 13:05:10 UTC  

Lmfao true but you can have degrees of randomness

2019-09-25 13:05:25 UTC  

size is irrelevent

2019-09-25 13:05:26 UTC  

You can add risk taking etc

2019-09-25 13:05:36 UTC  

Size is never irrelevant <:Kappa:386676594120589312>

2019-09-25 13:05:50 UTC  

the important thing is if they can accurately model it