France?

Cases where the individual dies in the act

Or plans on dying.

Are very different

@NinjaQuick The UK is an outlier based on what, exactly?

@Raintola Well you tell me then. Where does "fuck the police" come from?

lol

why waste money feeding druggies

Most crimes are opportunity.

just fine the shit out of them

@Jake the Exile https://www.thedailybeast.com/a-brief-history-of-the-phrase-fck-the-police

@Raintola well there's evidence to point to black mothers teaching their kids to stay away from police and the attitude around the inner cities of america to be very anti police

@Jake the Exile The same place "fuck the church" comes from in people raised in a religious home. They come to that conclusion on their own.

Which causes crime

The person decides the benefit of committing the crime outweigh the risk of being caught.

well

you know what would really deter crime?

military patrols

If a person plans on dying in the act, they are far less worried about being caught.

@Muten Staying away from police doesn't equate to committing crime though. Hell, I'd bet most white families teach their kids to stay away from the cops too..by not committing crime

suicide by cop is very uncommon

So what about the Knife Crime in London @NinjaQuick?

Explain

@NinjaQuick No shit, which is the entire point. No one gives a fuck about punishment not preventing crime because it was never designed to in the first place.

@Raintola the thing is that due to the massive amounts of police in inner cities it leads to alot of tension not to mention the anti white rhetoric and "white mans world" syndrome that also plagues these areas

It is

Nah

You know what would really deter crime? Strong local communities and social cohesion.

^

Deterrence theory is the core of the justice system dogma.

Fuck the dogma

If punishment was intended to prevent, life sentences would be the norm for first time offenders. Can't re-offend if you never make it out of jail.

^

That violates the seventh ammendment

And?

And what?

That's exactly why life in prison for first offenses isn't a thing.

Eighth, IIRC

Determent is like tolerance at this point

What do you mean "and what"? Violating 7A doesn't make me statement any less correct.

Whichever.