Message from @Raintola

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2019-08-10 00:13:33 UTC  

@Muten Staying away from police doesn't equate to committing crime though. Hell, I'd bet most white families teach their kids to stay away from the cops too..by not committing crime

2019-08-10 00:13:33 UTC  

suicide by cop is very uncommon

2019-08-10 00:13:38 UTC  

So what about the Knife Crime in London @NinjaQuick?

2019-08-10 00:13:52 UTC  

Explain

2019-08-10 00:14:31 UTC  

@NinjaQuick No shit, which is the entire point. No one gives a fuck about punishment not preventing crime because it was never designed to in the first place.

2019-08-10 00:14:39 UTC  

@Raintola the thing is that due to the massive amounts of police in inner cities it leads to alot of tension not to mention the anti white rhetoric and "white mans world" syndrome that also plagues these areas

2019-08-10 00:14:40 UTC  

It is

2019-08-10 00:14:44 UTC  

Nah

2019-08-10 00:14:46 UTC  

You know what would really deter crime? Strong local communities and social cohesion.

2019-08-10 00:14:53 UTC  

^

2019-08-10 00:14:53 UTC  

Deterrence theory is the core of the justice system dogma.

2019-08-10 00:15:12 UTC  

Fuck the dogma

2019-08-10 00:15:17 UTC  

If punishment was intended to prevent, life sentences would be the norm for first time offenders. Can't re-offend if you never make it out of jail.

2019-08-10 00:15:29 UTC  

^

2019-08-10 00:15:34 UTC  

That violates the seventh ammendment

2019-08-10 00:15:38 UTC  

And?

2019-08-10 00:15:47 UTC  

And what?

2019-08-10 00:15:59 UTC  

That's exactly why life in prison for first offenses isn't a thing.

2019-08-10 00:16:01 UTC  

Eighth, IIRC

2019-08-10 00:16:03 UTC  

Determent is like tolerance at this point

2019-08-10 00:16:07 UTC  

What do you mean "and what"? Violating 7A doesn't make me statement any less correct.

2019-08-10 00:16:11 UTC  

Whichever.

2019-08-10 00:16:17 UTC  

it's not the goal it's a by product of a working system

2019-08-10 00:16:27 UTC  

It does make it impossible.

2019-08-10 00:16:34 UTC  

In america

2019-08-10 00:16:34 UTC  

You have to operate under the framework

2019-08-10 00:16:41 UTC  

military patrols tbh

2019-08-10 00:16:51 UTC  

Putting people in prison is expensive and doesn't stop people committing crimes.

2019-08-10 00:16:52 UTC  

Deterrence theory may by the core of the justice system, but we're not talking about the justice system as a whole, we're talking about a single facet.

2019-08-10 00:16:54 UTC  

Stop aiming for deterrence that's how you get a police state

2019-08-10 00:17:10 UTC  

Putting people in prison was never about stopping people from committing crimes.

2019-08-10 00:17:11 UTC  

Because they will simply. Commit more heinous crimes as no matter what they will be fucked.

2019-08-10 00:17:19 UTC  

It was for restitution

2019-08-10 00:17:19 UTC  

Hence another type of crime, desperation.

2019-08-10 00:17:32 UTC  

Lol. Not restitution

2019-08-10 00:17:36 UTC  

You can go back and look at Hammurabi's code

2019-08-10 00:17:39 UTC  

Maybe in your twisted logic mind

2019-08-10 00:17:40 UTC  

Or "an eye for an eye"

2019-08-10 00:17:42 UTC  

Lol

2019-08-10 00:17:44 UTC  

LOL

2019-08-10 00:17:48 UTC  

So