Message from @SPOOKY Phil, Ruler of Heck
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The laws have changed recently, but given that lagao camps tend to play around with the rules
Religious Fundamentalists tend to breed closet gay religious folk, like....A LOT. Even among priests, which is rather funny
least over here in the USA
It doesn't really matter is my point, but objectivley yes China is worse
You asked and I responded to the question
okay? where did we advocate support for china, rather than cutting ties with the saudis?
can we not oppose both?
I was just responding to the question you asked
The point is China does problably kill as many homosexuals xD
Suadi Arabia also usually only executes people for being homosexual in addition to other offenses, such as child molestation. There's about 150 a year, and most executions are not for gays
it must have been something lore asked, because I didn't bring up china first
Anyways they don't really execute gays regularly just for being gay
It's not great they include being gay as like an extra charge, as if in you are a child molestor and gay it's a worse crime, but it's not exactly as bad as say, idk arming hezbollah
Suadi ARabia is also progressing, such as letting woman drive, so that's good
They're a case of a country that may be able to improve without the need for war, and as war is the least ideal way of achieving progress, is not a good reason to invade them
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if we were to say, idk achieve a peace agreement with North korea, it's not like it becomes dandelions and roses overnight
I wouldn't be too optimistic about the Saudis.
Honestly.
Suadi Arabia is far more progressive than most other middle eastern states. Israel is problably the most
but Jordan is only a tad bit better than Saudi Arabia afaik
FGM is also more rare in Suadi Arabia than say, iran
but it is present
To my knowledge it's banned, but it still happens
Actually, maybe Lebanon is higher than Jordan
While Saudi Arabia **might** be rather high on the list, it certainly isn't the 2nd or 3rd most progressive nation in the ME
Suadi Arabia is not great, but it's way better than say, iran
Well, yeah
that's a given
It's better to achieve things via diplomacy
If you can manage it, and Suadi arabia does seem to be improving
Without the need for war
Slowly over time
I mean sure I'd love to see them become westernized over night ,but that's unreasonable
War is a measure of last resort, obviously
That is, until one of the rulers does a face-heel-turn
and for all we know, that might occur
A handful of private citizens supporting Al-Qeada or ISIS is different from the governmeant of iran funding hezbollah, so yeah it's different
Iran is a direct military threat to other countries in the region and has made this clear, been mining open waters, and has attempted to assassiante western leaders
They've given over 100,000 missiles to hezbollah, russian missiles