Suadi arabia executes about 150 people a year

I don't know how many are gay

I'm guessing out of a million, there's more gay people killed in china

And how do you know that China has gulags for those other than the Muzzies?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laogai#Number_of_deaths

Other than the defectors and intelligence gathered, there's also things like sattelite photos and whatnot

Not finding anything for "gay" or "homosexual"

odd

yes??? I'm sorry, I missed the part where I spoke in defense of china, please point it out

You have people claiming to be from the camps in the thousands, and their story lines up with what observable evidence we can find. I tend to trust the intelligence communities

Yes, but are ANY of them gay?

probably? is that really a sticking point here?

How were they able to tell their stories? Did they have to leave the PRC?

I mean we are talking 150 people vs. 1 million

it's problably true that more chinese people are gay

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unless they just refuse to put gay people in camps no matter what

Communist china once executed people for being gay though

how did this become a cunt-measuring match between china and the saudis?

The laws have changed recently, but given that lagao camps tend to play around with the rules

Religious Fundamentalists tend to breed closet gay religious folk, like....A LOT. Even among priests, which is rather funny

least over here in the USA

It doesn't really matter is my point, but objectivley yes China is worse

You asked and I responded to the question

okay? where did we advocate support for china, rather than cutting ties with the saudis?

can we not oppose both?

I was just responding to the question you asked

The point is China does problably kill as many homosexuals xD

Suadi Arabia also usually only executes people for being homosexual in addition to other offenses, such as child molestation. There's about 150 a year, and most executions are not for gays

it must have been something lore asked, because I didn't bring up china first

Anyways they don't really execute gays regularly just for being gay

It's not great they include being gay as like an extra charge, as if in you are a child molestor and gay it's a worse crime, but it's not exactly as bad as say, idk arming hezbollah

Suadi ARabia is also progressing, such as letting woman drive, so that's good

They're a case of a country that may be able to improve without the need for war, and as war is the least ideal way of achieving progress, is not a good reason to invade them

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if we were to say, idk achieve a peace agreement with North korea, it's not like it becomes dandelions and roses overnight

I wouldn't be too optimistic about the Saudis.

Honestly.

Suadi Arabia is far more progressive than most other middle eastern states. Israel is problably the most

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I'm fairly sure it's:
Israel
Jordan
**and then** Saudi Arabia

but Jordan is only a tad bit better than Saudi Arabia afaik