Message from @everybodydothatdinosaur
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yes??? I'm sorry, I missed the part where I spoke in defense of china, please point it out
You have people claiming to be from the camps in the thousands, and their story lines up with what observable evidence we can find. I tend to trust the intelligence communities
Yes, but are ANY of them gay?
probably? is that really a sticking point here?
How were they able to tell their stories? Did they have to leave the PRC?
I mean we are talking 150 people vs. 1 million
it's problably true that more chinese people are gay
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unless they just refuse to put gay people in camps no matter what
Communist china once executed people for being gay though
how did this become a cunt-measuring match between china and the saudis?
The laws have changed recently, but given that lagao camps tend to play around with the rules
Religious Fundamentalists tend to breed closet gay religious folk, like....A LOT. Even among priests, which is rather funny
least over here in the USA
It doesn't really matter is my point, but objectivley yes China is worse
You asked and I responded to the question
okay? where did we advocate support for china, rather than cutting ties with the saudis?
can we not oppose both?
I was just responding to the question you asked
Suadi Arabia also usually only executes people for being homosexual in addition to other offenses, such as child molestation. There's about 150 a year, and most executions are not for gays
it must have been something lore asked, because I didn't bring up china first
Anyways they don't really execute gays regularly just for being gay
It's not great they include being gay as like an extra charge, as if in you are a child molestor and gay it's a worse crime, but it's not exactly as bad as say, idk arming hezbollah
Suadi ARabia is also progressing, such as letting woman drive, so that's good
They're a case of a country that may be able to improve without the need for war, and as war is the least ideal way of achieving progress, is not a good reason to invade them
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if we were to say, idk achieve a peace agreement with North korea, it's not like it becomes dandelions and roses overnight
I wouldn't be too optimistic about the Saudis.
Honestly.
Suadi Arabia is far more progressive than most other middle eastern states. Israel is problably the most
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I'm fairly sure it's:
Israel
Jordan
**and then** Saudi Arabia
but Jordan is only a tad bit better than Saudi Arabia afaik
FGM is also more rare in Suadi Arabia than say, iran
but it is present
To my knowledge it's banned, but it still happens
Actually, maybe Lebanon is higher than Jordan
While Saudi Arabia **might** be rather high on the list, it certainly isn't the 2nd or 3rd most progressive nation in the ME
Suadi Arabia is not great, but it's way better than say, iran
Well, yeah