Message from @killerqwerty
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you're still just spouting righteous indignation
-how- does a country hold china to their agreements
By refusing to deal with them if they don't
and they can do that
but they don't want to
Capital controls and trade tariffs
Ie, the state stops acting to facilitate global labor arbitrage
Like realy, _you can't stop china from shitting on you you idiot, so stop trying to propose ways you can make china stop shitting on you, so indignant_
You have to then consider the externalities of that, and how to mitigate them
So lets take UK as the example
If you stop trading with China, what do you think the externalities will be?
in the short term prices will increase, in the long term trade will shift to another country.
as is happening with china and America right now
companies are already shifting manufacturing out of china due to the tariffs trump has imposed.
How do you think the rising prices will affect your economy?
well, if you're using tariffs, if you reinvest the money from the tariffs back into the local economy probably not much, it may even improve it.
if you're cutting ties with china, negatively, but due to the amount of competitors china has not apocalyptically so.
Consumption would necessarily go down
And don't forget, china is a lot less economically stable the the west, and not only that, the current administration is reliant on the booming Chinese economy to stay in power. China is a lot more dependant on trade with them then we are.
It cannot do anything but negatively affect the economy because money velocity decreases
IF you took the money gained from the tariffs, and distributed it amongst the citizenry, then while prices would go up, so would the spending capital, keeping the economy roughly stable. If that increase in free capital paired with imported goods being more expensive caused an increase of consumption of local goods then it may even cause an up tick.
And even taking for granted that it would negatively impact the economy, that doesn't mean it can't be done. It just makes it less politically attractive. And again we come back to: we don't lack the power to hold them accountable, we lack the will.
UK would need to have already left the EU for that to work
Brexit was always a contentious and closely run thing. But if 100% of the country, or even 75%, wanted to leave they would already have. With a clearer majority the MPs wouldn't be able to drag their heels as much as they have, and the EU wouldn't be able dick the UK over as much because of the lack of support from within. Again, they don't lack the ***power*** to leave the EU, they could theoretically leave tomorrow and the EU wouldn't be able to stop them, what the lack is the ***will*** to do so.
We are all aware of this
Reinstate the queen
She'll go and do to the Germans what they used to do to Germans in her time <:smugon:512048583806025739>
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