Message from @Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU

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2019-09-07 21:43:43 UTC  

I’ve always hated the notion of good vs evil. Life doesn’t work that way. It’s just cause & effect

2019-09-07 21:43:45 UTC  

otherwise the whole house falls down

2019-09-07 21:44:14 UTC  

I'd assume that responsibility is a big factor in it.

2019-09-07 21:44:16 UTC  

i think that 99% of 'evil' people arent actually trying to be evil, they just have differing goals or are selfish

2019-09-07 21:44:18 UTC  

however

2019-09-07 21:44:28 UTC  

i do believe that good people are trying to be good people

2019-09-07 21:44:39 UTC  

its just **what** they're trying to do

2019-09-07 21:44:44 UTC  

Being mandated also eradicates your personal responsibility, while having a free hand means you're have to look out fort he shit you do

2019-09-07 21:44:47 UTC  

that may be a problem

2019-09-07 21:44:50 UTC  

depends what you define as 'evil', which i would say is'against god' and my definition of 'god' is 'the truth that is apparent in the world'

2019-09-07 21:45:01 UTC  

i guess here's a better way to put it

2019-09-07 21:45:02 UTC  

aka, freedom is better than tyranny

2019-09-07 21:45:06 UTC  

more people thrive and are happier

2019-09-07 21:45:13 UTC  

cause and effect is a totally different mode of analysis the good and evil, lmao

2019-09-07 21:45:23 UTC  

therefore, tyranny results in suffering and therefore is evil

2019-09-07 21:45:25 UTC  

in that sense

2019-09-07 21:45:31 UTC  

ur saying morality not real because metaphysics real

2019-09-07 21:45:33 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613767975614283832/620011798048931880/577bac2d5f48b.png

2019-09-07 21:45:36 UTC  

das literal nonsense

2019-09-07 21:45:43 UTC  

?

2019-09-07 21:45:47 UTC  

morality is based on effective tactics

2019-09-07 21:45:56 UTC  

if you steal from somewhere, they wont like you

2019-09-07 21:46:06 UTC  

if you trade in good faith with someone, they want to trade more

2019-09-07 21:46:11 UTC  

and its way more beneficial to both parties

2019-09-07 21:46:25 UTC  

therefore it would stand that morality comes in co-operation tactics

2019-09-07 21:46:29 UTC  

Morality only exists in the form of a social contract. Does it follow the social contract, then it’s moral. Does it break the social contract, then it’s immoral.

2019-09-07 21:46:30 UTC  

because it makes more good

2019-09-07 21:46:56 UTC  

and the social contract is built via beliefs and practices, essentially, in 'god'

2019-09-07 21:47:00 UTC  

like the non-zero sum game

2019-09-07 21:47:03 UTC  

A good person strives to improve the world/benefit others by doing X. an evil person would do the opposite. However, most people referred to as evil just had a shit plan, or were less "good" and more selfish/unscrupulous. For example, communism was fueled by people trying to "do good" by making a utopia, but it failed miserably.

2019-09-07 21:47:18 UTC  

No. America has a social contract. It’s the constitution

2019-09-07 21:47:37 UTC  

and the consitution is based on the founders observations of what is correct in the world

2019-09-07 21:47:41 UTC  

i dont think communists were evil. i just think they had a shitty idea

2019-09-07 21:47:47 UTC  

thats why the country succeeds where others have failed

2019-09-07 21:47:52 UTC  

@Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU *correct observations

2019-09-07 21:47:57 UTC  

because they have aligned with the 'truth' of the world

2019-09-07 21:48:03 UTC  

i dont think thieves are evil, i just think they're desperate and self-centered

2019-09-07 21:48:05 UTC  

being that liberty and individuality is paramount

2019-09-07 21:48:10 UTC  

Right. A social contract is an agreed upon set of believes that can be enforced.

2019-09-07 21:48:13 UTC  

do i think pedos are evil? absolutely, firing squad

2019-09-07 21:48:14 UTC  

@Spooky Melon Like all ideologies, some members of Communism are genuinely evil, not just misguided (RE: Mao, Stalin, etc)