@Aquila Fiacra thats more of an authoritarian/liberal argument

It's liberty versus equity.

its like not laying down a foundation for a house

granted

one of those seems to lean more to another side

but still

the bricks on the bottom dont like having to hold up all the other bricks and the entire 90% of the house

but they are needed

I’ve always hated the notion of good vs evil. Life doesn’t work that way. It’s just cause & effect

otherwise the whole house falls down

I'd assume that responsibility is a big factor in it.

i think that 99% of 'evil' people arent actually trying to be evil, they just have differing goals or are selfish

however

i do believe that good people are trying to be good people

its just **what** they're trying to do

Being mandated also eradicates your personal responsibility, while having a free hand means you're have to look out fort he shit you do

that may be a problem

depends what you define as 'evil', which i would say is'against god' and my definition of 'god' is 'the truth that is apparent in the world'

i guess here's a better way to put it

aka, freedom is better than tyranny

more people thrive and are happier

cause and effect is a totally different mode of analysis the good and evil, lmao

therefore, tyranny results in suffering and therefore is evil

in that sense

ur saying morality not real because metaphysics real

das literal nonsense

?

morality is based on effective tactics

if you steal from somewhere, they wont like you

if you trade in good faith with someone, they want to trade more

and its way more beneficial to both parties

therefore it would stand that morality comes in co-operation tactics

Morality only exists in the form of a social contract. Does it follow the social contract, then it’s moral. Does it break the social contract, then it’s immoral.

because it makes more good

and the social contract is built via beliefs and practices, essentially, in 'god'

like the non-zero sum game

A good person strives to improve the world/benefit others by doing X. an evil person would do the opposite. However, most people referred to as evil just had a shit plan, or were less "good" and more selfish/unscrupulous. For example, communism was fueled by people trying to "do good" by making a utopia, but it failed miserably.

No. America has a social contract. It’s the constitution

and the consitution is based on the founders observations of what is correct in the world

i dont think communists were evil. i just think they had a shitty idea