Message from @PastPresentFuture
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I've heard it said that the worst sin is to think about Sin.
^ Interesting @J_G_
Elaborate
Does thinking about sin offer more temptation to sin?
It seems that sin does arise in the mind, fed by the light of attention. I'm reading on another tab, paraphrased, that sin is any activity that takes us away from God. "Sin is wrong action. What is action based upon? Thinking. So sin is connected with thinking/thoughts and these thoughts carried out." Just now I think that 'original sin' refers to our division from the knowledge of and our relationship to God our Father, and the reason that Jesus Christ is so important is that he punctuated his existence with his crucifixion, otherwise we may never have heard about him. His becoming a martyr spread his fame and legend when otherwise he would have perhaps faded into obscurity. Back to the point, perhaps the way that he eliminated the original sin for those who believe in him, is that practicing meditation (aka prayer) in order to regain a proper relationship to God the Father. Jesus' life and work therefore delivered his believers unto God consciousness, out of the muck of atheist perdition.
although this sounds like i think i know what i am talking about, i just tried to write something coherent, that's all.
"god consciousness"
I've never read the Koran. Never attracted to it at all. @2:10 tho is right, I've gotten a lot of tears of beauty and profundity from the "Shakespeare" of almost every hindu scripture I've read. What i meant about "god consciousness" is either you are cut off from knowing of God, or you are in the fold.
I'm pretty sure the muslims believe in the Koran is because they will get their head cut off otherwise. not a fan.
In my view, God created it all, his breath breathes everything in and out of existence, his dream is our universe, creates all things, is the ultimate enjoyer of all things, etc. Metaphors aren't sufficient to contain Him. So such a God to me, pre-existed modern religion, so every testament about _that_ God is worth reading. I'm enjoying the video by the way.
awesome video
I like Jesses explanation of the Gospel, that Christ made a way back to the Father, and put everything back in order. He said you believe in Christ by believing what he said. That makes the most sense and is the easiest to understand. Simple.
by believing in what who said?
In what Christ said.
Not believing in what he said. Just in believing what he said.
“Believe in” is a vague phrase.
I believe in what Christ said.
Is there a difference in *believing* what he said and *believing in* what he said? Believing sounds simpler, no way of misunderstanding what one means.
It means the same thing.
THEN HURRY UP AND READ THE BIBLE SO YOU KNOW!!
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I agree with Tim on that.
But if I hadn't read the Bible, how would I know?
That was the presuppositon.
Its the best philosophy book
If you know that you don't know, then do you know that you don't know.
I know that I know that I don't know, because if I did know, that I'd know, and I have a Bible, so I know, but if I didn't know, would I know?
I don't know
I know that you know
I would feel like I would know some inherent / intrinsic values, but I'm not sure which one's I'd know.
Perhaps murder.
I'd know that'd be immoral.
God pre-existed his descriptions. His works are greater than the attempts to descirbe them besides.
I don't believe that God is subject to time. I do not think it is beyond his power however, to experience time through any being who does experience time, at any point in history or the future, as if it is happening right now. To a person it would seem fantastic, but to God it's probably no big deal.
Jesse says the Truth is written in our heart, I don't think that truth was written on a certain date, but it is eternal because Truth is eternal.
"The Truth is written in our heart" "Your heart's not pure"
thoughts are the impure part. mind is the trickster. God made all, is everywhere, is transcendent of our trappings. All powerful, etc
Exodus 21 This is supposed to be Gods word ?