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It pleases me that you continue to remember and honor me by keeping up the traditions of the faith I taught you. All actual authority stems from Christ.
1 Corinthians 11:1-2 MSG
I think the main idea of what he’s saying is that when a person is spiritual they are very likely to speak a universal truth,
So that’s why you hear similar things when people have reached that enlightened stage
And it shall be, if thou do at all forget the Lord thy God, and walk after other gods, and serve them, and worship them, I testify against you this day that ye shall surely perish.
Deuteronomy 8:19 KJV
You can be spiritual and not believe in God.
You shall have no foreign god among you; you shall not worship any god other than me.
Psalm 81:9 NIV
Since, then, we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade others. What we are is plain to God, and I hope it is also plain to your conscience. So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here! All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God. God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
2 Corinthians 5:11, 16-21 NIV
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
John 14:6 NIV
False, a person CANNOT be spiritual if they don’t know god. A lot of young ppl say that I’ve noticed
A person can believe in Mother Nature and be spiritual.
@J_G_ The Bhagavad Gita was written around the same time as the Law of Moses, but it's a moot point, because Shem and Ever had academies that taught the entire world the received tradition from Adam long before the Torah was given.
I wasn't saying why you shouldn't cling to the morals of Hinduism, I was saying why your arguments aren't sound enough for someone who's already found the truth to abandon it for the land of a million gods
India's no different from tribal religion in Africa or pagan Europe or pagan Middle East. Every city has its own god. Calling a spectrum of beliefs a single religion is misleading or malicious.
hey sar glad you're still here brother.
Imnot familiar with Eastern or indian religions
it kinda confuses me a little lol
I don’t see it as worshipping other gods if you note and appreciate other morals and values in religions 🤔
There's only one God. There's always only been one God. What people believe is another story.
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I understand what you are saying but it doesn't answer the concept of multiple deities with different attributes in lands across the globe. In Nordic religion, you have Odin, Thor, Loki, Freya, etc... In Mayan religion, you have Kukulkan, Awilix, etc.... In Hindu religion, you have many incarnations of Vishnu like Rama, Krishna, and Vamana. In Greek/Roman, you have Zeus/Jupiter, Poseidon/Neptune, Ares/Mars, Aphrodite/Venus, etc. In China, you have He Bo, Guan Yu, Nu Wa, etc.
In most (not all) of these religions they point to one god who is the head of the other gods below it. The Apostles traveled to all of these countries to spread the gospel of Jesus and the Word of God. Most of them have developed their gods based on natural (worldy) events. Most believed that people who had wisdom were gods! But the Apostles walked the Earth to tell them of the story of God/Jesus from the beginning (Old Testament/Torah) to the end (New Testament/Septuagiant). @J_G_ @Szayel's Pooppion
Here is my scripture reference:
Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.
Acts 17:12 KJV
And they that conducted Paul brought him unto Athens: and receiving a commandment unto Silas and Timothy for to come to him with all speed, they departed. Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry. Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him. Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.
Acts 17:15-18 KJV
And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is? For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean. (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.) Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
Acts 17:19-23 KJV
God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Acts 17:24-30 KJV
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Acts 17:31 KJV
Bibilical question: What makes the Bible holy, without using appeal to authority, in your own words?
Its simplicity and age. If there has to be multiple gods to do different things, shouldn't a Creator be the only One to be able to do all of that? The Bible was actually found through the Dead Sea Scrolls (in Israel). So far archaeological findings and research in Israel and Rome [so far] are concluding tangible facts to what is called out in the Scriptures.
so don't feel like i am putting you on the spot but I'm curious what you'd say that 'holy' means.
I'll just say that I haven't found anything that I can remember that I disagree with in the Bible. Even the 'bad' parts are basically cautionary tales I reckon.
also, as a tangent, hinduism doesn't have a central text, so there's no competition or anything, just additional testaments about God and godly devotees and incarnations of God for those who like to hear more awesome stories about the omnipresent one. If the universe is a trillion trillion miles wide, I believe God is there too doing God stuff that we have no idea about.
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Oh don't be! I am enjoying this! 'Holy' to me means to live in the likeness of God. God is 'holy' and therefore to follow His statues and command is to be in His likeness. God saw that His people weren't getting it according to the Scriptures, so He sent Jesus to provide a perfect, physical example of how we should live.
So who is the omnipresent one according to Hindu religion? What is a godly devotee?
@ @J_G_
God is everywhere. omnipresent, by him all things exist.
a godly person is a person of God, like Jesse or ... hard to find good examples... people of high moral character for example.
Osho
I’d say he’s a godly person, Hindu I believe
Understandable. I am going to look up the Bhavahata Gita (sp?) and get back to you.
Although I agree to disagree, it was still a great discourse. I don't agree with simply being accepting of all religions because most conflict with God. It is almost like saying 'freedom of religion' which is what most liberals harp on.
I again could be wrong so I would like to take a moment to educate myself a bit.
just FYI the Bhagavad Gita is a few chapters inside of the longest epic poem ever written in history to date, called the Mahabharata.