Message from @J_G_

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2018-09-13 03:13:17 UTC  

Imnot familiar with Eastern or indian religions

2018-09-13 03:13:23 UTC  

it kinda confuses me a little lol

2018-09-13 03:54:21 UTC  

I don’t see it as worshipping other gods if you note and appreciate other morals and values in religions 🤔

2018-09-13 04:03:32 UTC  

There's only one God. There's always only been one God. What people believe is another story.

2018-09-13 04:03:52 UTC  

^

2018-09-13 10:07:00 UTC  

I understand what you are saying but it doesn't answer the concept of multiple deities with different attributes in lands across the globe. In Nordic religion, you have Odin, Thor, Loki, Freya, etc... In Mayan religion, you have Kukulkan, Awilix, etc.... In Hindu religion, you have many incarnations of Vishnu like Rama, Krishna, and Vamana. In Greek/Roman, you have Zeus/Jupiter, Poseidon/Neptune, Ares/Mars, Aphrodite/Venus, etc. In China, you have He Bo, Guan Yu, Nu Wa, etc.

In most (not all) of these religions they point to one god who is the head of the other gods below it. The Apostles traveled to all of these countries to spread the gospel of Jesus and the Word of God. Most of them have developed their gods based on natural (worldy) events. Most believed that people who had wisdom were gods! But the Apostles walked the Earth to tell them of the story of God/Jesus from the beginning (Old Testament/Torah) to the end (New Testament/Septuagiant). @J_G_ @Szayel's Pooppion

2018-09-13 10:09:35 UTC  

Here is my scripture reference:
Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.
Acts 17:12 KJV

2018-09-13 10:09:59 UTC  

And they that conducted Paul brought him unto Athens: and receiving a commandment unto Silas and Timothy for to come to him with all speed, they departed. Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry. Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him. Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.
Acts 17:15‭-‬18 KJV

2018-09-13 10:10:29 UTC  

And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is? For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean. (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.) Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
Acts 17:19‭-‬23 KJV

2018-09-13 10:11:02 UTC  

God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Acts 17:24‭-‬30 KJV

2018-09-13 10:11:27 UTC  

Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Acts 17:31 KJV

2018-09-13 12:42:11 UTC  

Bibilical question: What makes the Bible holy, without using appeal to authority, in your own words?

2018-09-13 12:57:17 UTC  

Its simplicity and age. If there has to be multiple gods to do different things, shouldn't a Creator be the only One to be able to do all of that? The Bible was actually found through the Dead Sea Scrolls (in Israel). So far archaeological findings and research in Israel and Rome [so far] are concluding tangible facts to what is called out in the Scriptures.

2018-09-13 13:03:52 UTC  

so don't feel like i am putting you on the spot but I'm curious what you'd say that 'holy' means.

2018-09-13 13:04:58 UTC  

I'll just say that I haven't found anything that I can remember that I disagree with in the Bible. Even the 'bad' parts are basically cautionary tales I reckon.

2018-09-13 13:20:49 UTC  

also, as a tangent, hinduism doesn't have a central text, so there's no competition or anything, just additional testaments about God and godly devotees and incarnations of God for those who like to hear more awesome stories about the omnipresent one. If the universe is a trillion trillion miles wide, I believe God is there too doing God stuff that we have no idea about.

2018-09-13 13:44:27 UTC  

^

2018-09-13 14:37:52 UTC  

Oh don't be! I am enjoying this! 'Holy' to me means to live in the likeness of God. God is 'holy' and therefore to follow His statues and command is to be in His likeness. God saw that His people weren't getting it according to the Scriptures, so He sent Jesus to provide a perfect, physical example of how we should live.

2018-09-13 14:40:22 UTC  

So who is the omnipresent one according to Hindu religion? What is a godly devotee?

2018-09-13 14:40:32 UTC  
2018-09-13 14:41:02 UTC  

God is everywhere. omnipresent, by him all things exist.

2018-09-13 14:42:36 UTC  

a godly person is a person of God, like Jesse or ... hard to find good examples... people of high moral character for example.

2018-09-13 16:30:30 UTC  

Osho

2018-09-13 16:30:41 UTC  

I’d say he’s a godly person, Hindu I believe

2018-09-13 16:48:23 UTC  

Understandable. I am going to look up the Bhavahata Gita (sp?) and get back to you.

2018-09-13 16:50:13 UTC  

Although I agree to disagree, it was still a great discourse. I don't agree with simply being accepting of all religions because most conflict with God. It is almost like saying 'freedom of religion' which is what most liberals harp on.

2018-09-13 16:50:35 UTC  

I again could be wrong so I would like to take a moment to educate myself a bit.

2018-09-13 17:29:36 UTC  

just FYI the Bhagavad Gita is a few chapters inside of the longest epic poem ever written in history to date, called the Mahabharata.

2018-09-13 17:33:41 UTC  

it's not a bible but it's considered a holy text. it is a miracle in my opinion that it exists at all. it's that beautiful.

2018-09-13 17:37:13 UTC  

I think it’s more what a person takes out of a religion rather than ones in it, but ofc, there can be great things said within it.

2018-09-13 17:52:23 UTC  

Okay, so @Szayel's Pooppion , if I am studying White Wyccan (good witchcraft), it is a matter of what I take from it?

2018-09-13 17:52:40 UTC  

What if I believe in Mother Nature?

2018-09-13 17:53:05 UTC  

No...lol

2018-09-13 17:53:21 UTC  

Again I don’t consider those to actually be religions

2018-09-13 17:54:21 UTC  

They *could* get something good out of it I guess, but it’s not fitting what I’m saying about religions

2018-09-13 17:54:53 UTC  

It’s good to have awareness and collect information of world truths I think and spot similarities I think

2018-09-13 17:56:58 UTC  

Oh an example I just thought of

2018-09-13 17:58:35 UTC  

Okay I will play 'Devil's Advocate' here: To some who believes in the spirituality of Mother Nature say it is a religion. They are peaceful and believe that Mother Nature made Earth (Think Terra/Gaia or Geb).

2018-09-13 17:58:49 UTC  

You dispute that that isn't a religion?

2018-09-13 17:58:57 UTC  

But a cult?