Why doesn’t free speech protect incitement to violence? the reason is, incitement to violence is encouraging violence, and violence isn’t speech so it isn’t covered under free speech

Free speech has limits like slander and inciting violence, but hate speech laws don’t cover either of those

@bobthebuilder69 yes, the violence isn't speech, but why isn't the encouragement?

It would depend the context of the encouragement

If someone randomly says it to you in a expressionless voice, it’s a bit different then someone speaking to a riled up crowd, telling the crowd to fucking riot and kill those foreigners

So in some contexts the encouragement is almost guaranteed to lead to violence, it should be dealt with on a case by case basis as imwouldnt want obvious jokes to be seen as incitement

@bobthebuilder69 as we've seen from the count dankula trial, context doesn't matter. that also doesn't explain why the person inciting should be held responsible for the person incited.

Context doesn’t matter in terms of our current government but I’m saying that it should, we don’t live in a country with free speech anyway

And because in certain cases, the person wouldn’t of done the violence without the inviter

Inciter*

If that’s a word

Instigator, more like

Though, inciter does seem like a valid word, and may just be common enough to be dictionaried.

It is a word I think

No red line

is this far leftist making the blood and soil argument now? 😛 https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1194249737794281472?s=20

https://twitter.com/BrexitCentral/status/1194691479387746304

UK Politics are an utter joke

how so?

https://twitter.com/eggy0210/status/1194292492570677248?s=21

Because we’re not all armed with weapons, marching in the streets @Eccles

Ignore Yanks.

Yank politics are far worse than UK pol atm

Imagine impeaching your president because he's going after corrupt politicians on your side

https://twitter.com/MigrationWatch

The US is significantly better

They still have most of their freedoms

Unlike the UK

https://twitter.com/tpointuk/status/1194580224257777665?s=21

Such as?

Free Speech

Right to bear arms

They don't have either

Hate Speech laws don't exist in a legal sense in the US

The Constitution blocks it

They don't need to

Their society still implements them

And they still have a Right to Bear Arms albeit a limited one

All this is lovely, but it doesn't speak to the quality of their POLITICS

You know we can gain access to firearms in the UK too right?

The society does here to the only different is you won't be arrested in the US for it whereas in the UK you can

@Nathan James 123 We can but it is much more difficult then in the US and what you can do with any firearm is also restricted