Message from @Aquila Fiacra
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Who’s she?
Tyche
And are you asking about the free speech thing @killerqwerty
@bobthebuilder69 yes
Why doesn’t free speech protect incitement to violence? the reason is, incitement to violence is encouraging violence, and violence isn’t speech so it isn’t covered under free speech
Free speech has limits like slander and inciting violence, but hate speech laws don’t cover either of those
@bobthebuilder69 yes, the violence isn't speech, but why isn't the encouragement?
It would depend the context of the encouragement
If someone randomly says it to you in a expressionless voice, it’s a bit different then someone speaking to a riled up crowd, telling the crowd to fucking riot and kill those foreigners
So in some contexts the encouragement is almost guaranteed to lead to violence, it should be dealt with on a case by case basis as imwouldnt want obvious jokes to be seen as incitement
@bobthebuilder69 as we've seen from the count dankula trial, context doesn't matter. that also doesn't explain why the person inciting should be held responsible for the person incited.
Context doesn’t matter in terms of our current government but I’m saying that it should, we don’t live in a country with free speech anyway
And because in certain cases, the person wouldn’t of done the violence without the inviter
Inciter*
If that’s a word
Instigator, more like
Though, inciter does seem like a valid word, and may just be common enough to be dictionaried.
It is a word I think
No red line
is this far leftist making the blood and soil argument now? 😛 https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1194249737794281472?s=20
how so?
Because we’re not all armed with weapons, marching in the streets @Eccles
Ignore Yanks.
Yank politics are far worse than UK pol atm
Imagine impeaching your president because he's going after corrupt politicians on your side
The US is significantly better
They still have most of their freedoms
Unlike the UK
Such as?
Free Speech
Right to bear arms
They don't have either
Hate Speech laws don't exist in a legal sense in the US
The Constitution blocks it
They don't need to
Their society still implements them
And they still have a Right to Bear Arms albeit a limited one