That's because they go from being a nothing to being a leader you need people who work up to that position and who are actually able to learn the skillset rather then some faggot who got trained to lead

that is why i say a good leader is familiar with each job and has a particular specialty

you can't just goto school for 'leader' and expect for that knowledege to replace experience of learning the ropes

"this manager that has worked their way up in the company for the past 10 years versus the harvard graduate..."

fucking derp

yup

Literally that red

i think MGTOW is the natural extention of men's tendancy to specialize

Oh it's serious shit lol

Not that anyone likes the guy who climbs to that position tbh

that speciaization comes from not doing anything and being trained to be a leader. a mechanic who has spent 20 years on the job might have no idea how to be a leader in corporates eyes, but his will do a damn better job leading the mechanics section of your company than the person who has 20 years in inter-personal management.

that is partial true, yes

Experience is the word

there is an abstract element to dealing with people

but you can learn that anywhere and apply it anywhere else

the leader learns 'the hierarchy' more than any skill he does within that hierarchy

Kind of but it has to be in a similar environment

hence the hierarchy component

Send the mechanic to a couple psychology classes and management seminars, done.

negative

Noooo

hehe

psyhcology, in my opinion; worst thing for the West

oh god most of the mechanics i know would eat them alive.

because instead of said knowledge being held by those with most expeience, it is wielding by all

Its better to just pick people from those already exhibiting the right behaviour then training somebody who has no skill because if we're being real here you have to fucking work at any skill to really develop it and those people fucking won't do that if they don't already show the initiative

but you get my point, it's not a lot of catchup when he already has a large baseline

true. but there are different types of initiative

most of it is confidence building in the new role, fix it with additional training

not so sure about that

some people lack confidence, yes but also some people aren't suited for that particular task

confidence from competence

Its way broader then that

is my meaning

it's as much about matching the tool with the task as anything elsle

arrogance is different

i do think "train the person who has been doing the job to lead" is better than "bring in someone else trained to lead"

definately true

and find someone who doesn't WISH to lead

but recongizes the importance of leadership

and is good at it