Speak calmly, speak the language of compassion and reason. No matter what you say they will decide how you say it, so make every word of every sentence a positive one. Agree with them when they make their assertions , when they say "what about diversity" you say "diversity is important, especially diversity of thought". If you want to sell the PPC, make statements that they can't disagree with without looking like fools, that the reasonable people will see and agree with. Don't be bated into saying anything bombastic. Don't go on the attack. Be polite, and think about how you can formulate statements that will sound reasonable no matter how they cut it. If you have to say a snippet or phrase they will want to cut out to smear you with, bury it in the middle of a sentence so it is impossible to show without it's context is some way. Keep a recording of your own, just in case.

Was anyone else slight off put by the name Peoples Party of Canada. It's sounds communist. I know it's not. But it sounds it.

Likely is. its more taking a weird bit of Canadian law and making it fit with the rest. I hate the guy personally, but aim the attacks at things he actually does wrong as opposed to moral puritanism. If he was dropping it below the general age of consent I would be more worried (say 14 or 12).

We were just invisible due to our close proximity to the US-POL server.

There are a few main issues, with a true Quebec separation for the rest of Canada. The first is the loss of control of the Saint Lawrence, one of the major waterways into the more central portions of Canada. Second is that much of northern Quebec houses power generation facilities like solar farms, hydroelectric dams, and wind turbine fields, almost all of which were payed for and installed by the Canadian government, in order to separate they would be required to hand over a sizable chunk of land to Canada that is supposed to be Quebec, or they would have to pay several times their annual GDP to buy the infrastructure and generating facilities outright. The last issue is that aside from perhaps New Brunswick, most of the maritime provinces are Anglo and would not want to separate from Canada. But this would mean that the 3 or 4 maritime provinces that wanted to remain in Canada would have no land connection to the main body of the country and would have to travel through Quebec or the US in order to get to the capital/90% of the rest of the countries land mass.

Please do, we need an actual constitution. our charter of rights and freedoms is fundamentally broken and like 40 years old at best.

Except the worst excesses of our system is cause by the lack of hard constraints against government power. The common law wont save you once enough warped precedent is introduced into the system.

Its something I really disagree with Sargon on. you need something akin to a constitution. A hard back stop that cannot be overcome without the overwhelming will of the people. otherwise a few activists who call themselves judges can irreparably harm your legal system given enough time. Canada is a perfect roadmap to how the British system can fail given enough people who are willing to throw aside the rule of law for personal or political gain.

We have something like it, but it is not only not the same it is broken in its fundaments.

the name of the thing is not the thing itself

else the Democratic republic of Korea would be a very different place.

actually no. The separation of powers is very important. But in the United states their constitution acts as a limit on governmental power, We have no such restriction. The closest we get is the charter of rights and freedoms. and our Constitution act, only outlines who, how and what our governmental system is and the powers in it. there is no "you cannot ever" in it. only "you must, you can".

It does not help our system is almost designed to squash decentralized political movements.

Well we are the unwanted love child of British Colonialism and American Cultural Imperialisms.

Literally Satan to the rest of the Anglo sphere

(they just don't think of us like that because of all the moose and igloos)

Canadian stereotype jokes are the best, I always get a laugh out of them.

Canadians, the second you give them a moment to talk politics, the gripe, then devolve rapidly into polite small talk and Canadian Stereotype jokes.

the issue is more how the crowd reads it, and in Canada that's gonna be poorly. He is right that "the end of the world" is not coming in the next 12 years or whatever it is this time. not to mention of Canada produced 0 Greenhouse gasses (not even net 0 just none at all) that's just a global decrease of 3% you know who make up ~60% of all greenhouse gas emictions? China, the US and India. 3 countries we have absolutely 0 control over

what are we supposed to do exactly on this issue?

Yes, however much of that happened in the last 70 years. with the biggest increase happening after the assassination of JFK, and contueing into the Obama era

(in the centralization of power)

i think perhaps a seperation between local representation and who takes federal power might be needed.

because my local conservative or liberal might be the best option, but i sure as hell don't want either of them in power federally.

one thing would be better civics classes. i mean hell i passed mine and i swear to you i was absent more times than i was there. i pracitally treated that class as a spare

Proper Civics education is step one in making a better political system you have to know how it works to find out what's wrong with it.

And i care about them why? Oh right the little red sniper dot on my glasses just reminded my why. BTW Clintons did nothing wrong and Epstein committed suicide.

Yes there is a problem with ontario, and quebec being a little too powerful in a system that only has 10 provinces and 3 territories.

its like if there were only 13 states ane two of them were newyork and california

we gotta find a way to fix that, also toronto and quebec city are where almost all that pull is centralized.

Toronto has something like 8% of Canadas population living in it.

yep or about 16% of the total population of canada

thats like 60% of our total populaytion. yet we have a housing crysis

"for the love of all that is holy invest in any other section of the country other than Toronto you bastards"

almost 100% of our population lives within a 6 hour drive to the us border within the metropolitan area of 10 cities

we have the 3rd largest landmass of any country, but we refuse to use most of it

the permafrost line is well into Nunavut!

we dont build any infra structure northwards. you go much more north in Ontario that Orillia and you will pretty much find nothing.

i honestly think we need to work on expanding north. settling further apart, let new cities and towns grow.

now? yes. But if we could reinvigorate the Canadian pride and culture that existed? not so much. we were one of the scourges in the world wars.

We need to slow immigration, focus on rebuilding and strengthening the national identity. and working with our allies to defeat our common enemies. I'm looking at you China

I give us a little more hope than that, but i will require good and strong leadership. and if not that, well knowing the people i know, it will be revolution before they let it all fall to pieces that badly.

most people are predicting a liberal minority. I'm predicting a conservatives minority.

i hope our American friends hold the line on that. i want to see a red wall to my south. (dear god i never though i would be saying THAT in my yonger years)

no in my province likely lol i almost expect Ontario to go full conservative even with ford acting the fool

almost, but i know atleast the toronto section will be a liberal NDP mix just all the rest of the province that isn't them

you leave the GTA and its almost all conservative signs in Ontario

Heck even in my area the conservative supporters has signs up half a month before i saw the first liberal or NDP sign

that is just how bad Justin fucked up.

i didn't think they would get over the Raging hate boner they had for Harper this quickly. But all the signs seem to be pointing to people being more willing to forgive the Conservatives with harper out of leadership than stomach Justin for one more minute.

I have a PCC person so they get my vote. If you don't have one. Well it's still your local representative. Look into thier positions and be damned the federal level cosiquences.

thanks, i try to think local first. just because this is the federal election does not mean that you are not also voting for someone to represent you. its how i voted in the last election when I had no real good choice. Glad Icould help someone who is in the same position this time around.

not voting is the same as saying you support what ever outcome happens.

because we lack the ability to just vote "no competence" in all parties, what ever out come happens those who do not vote a presumably fine with it. as almost half of all eligible voters never turn out anyways.

you want to change the conservatives party? join them, talk to your local conservative candidate, head on down to one of the party offices and spend a day off just chatting with people. that will do a million times more than just not voting will.

then your tactics were ineffective. or, as good ol mad max has implied, they party is broken to its core and unsalvageable. if it is the former, not votging will do nothing, if it is the latter, not voting will do nothing.

Same here. but if i did not have a PPC candidate in the area, i would vote for the candidate i thought would represent me and my area the best. whether that was a con lib or ndp

a lack of a vote is only important in places where voting is mandatory. in places like canada that have between a 60-70% voter turn out. It means so little as to mean nothing.

any time i did not want to vote for one of the ruling parties, i always voted one of the numerous independent parties that pop up everywhere. i was one of maybe 1000 votes in my area for the Canadian libertarian party last time round.

Just voted in my area. PPC was an option. Picked PPC.

First results are supposed to trickle in around 7est

arent the SNP Heavy Pro remain?

so a "you help us get our independence, we help you get yours" type of deal

ah the welsh. who needs vowels right?

Same here.

And now we wait, and watch, and hope and pray.

Already started that part. though that's more for the DND game I have in half an hour. by the time that is done a more significant section of the polls will be in

I mean she is almost perfectly white.

DNA test proved that pretty handily

I wonder why? Its not like when people see there general quality of life dropping and they feel disaffected and powerless they are more likely to turn towards populist movements or anything. That's just that Evil Nazi Trumps influence on our perfect multiculty utopia.

Everyone knows Max is just a rushkranian puppet of the United states

from what i am seeing less than 10% of the polls are in for NL

one seat just got confirmed with 40 out of 203 polls in? and a difference of 700 votes?

make that 2? long range just came in. 39 out of 250, 1728 lib 1218 con

well i mean we are due for a civil war at some point eh

I am still not seeing how you call 2 elected seats without at least 40% of polls in

sorry i was wrong

Make that 3?

bonivista burin and trinity just got called

90-260 polls in 3790 lib 3058 con

Well i'm for a game. lets see if in a few hours things look more clear

Absolute domination!

wins a minority? dress up as a minority to represent his new position as higher on the progressive stack

he will stay in, and blame everyone but himself

137 currently predicted. 25 called leading in 112. thats... depressing

mine is pretty heavy con, but only 8 polls in

bq took like 3X the mount of seats so far

bernier has 2 differnet polls in beauce?

NP website has the breakdowns, he is names twice one for pcc and one for RP

ah. thats confusing lol

he is only down 500 and less than 30 polls are in

North west territories

they are poling liberal

BC may be what pushes the liberals into a majority...

changing the eletoral system lol

he signed onto the TTP even though he said he was against it. good thing trump scudded that one

nah nah. We Water the tree of Liberty

is is 1500 behind in his seat

How the fuck does Lib get within Sniffing distance of a majority with one of the biggest ethics and corruption scandals in the last 40 years

its EXTRA fucked. like this is if trump was actually guilty then got voted in again