Message from @Samaritan™

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2019-11-10 04:24:26 UTC  

a specailist should not be a leader. but a tool in a leaders' tool kit

2019-11-10 04:24:26 UTC  

but that focus is enabled by your teamate

2019-11-10 04:24:33 UTC  

that is the point

2019-11-10 04:24:44 UTC  

if no support, then you MUST be more general

2019-11-10 04:25:01 UTC  

A leader can be a specialisation in and of itself because fuck can it be hard to get people to work well together

2019-11-10 04:25:04 UTC  

the more support, the better you can fill a specific focus

2019-11-10 04:25:13 UTC  

definately

2019-11-10 04:25:29 UTC  

Totally different skill set from whatever you come from before being put in that position a lot of the time

2019-11-10 04:25:35 UTC  

i have met people who are specialists trained to be leaders. most of the time the cause damage ti million dollar machinery

2019-11-10 04:25:41 UTC  

Specialized leaders are shit, seen them drag entire companies into the dirt.

2019-11-10 04:26:01 UTC  

that is afterall how men and women traditionally work together; she priorities and watches the flanks while he specializes on what needs doing

2019-11-10 04:26:47 UTC  

That's because they go from being a nothing to being a leader you need people who work up to that position and who are actually able to learn the skillset rather then some faggot who got trained to lead

2019-11-10 04:26:49 UTC  

that is why i say a good leader is familiar with each job and has a particular specialty

2019-11-10 04:27:39 UTC  

you can't just goto school for 'leader' and expect for that knowledege to replace experience of learning the ropes

2019-11-10 04:27:45 UTC  

"this manager that has worked their way up in the company for the past 10 years versus the harvard graduate..."

2019-11-10 04:27:56 UTC  

fucking derp

2019-11-10 04:27:56 UTC  

yup

2019-11-10 04:28:22 UTC  

Literally that red

2019-11-10 04:28:36 UTC  

i think MGTOW is the natural extention of men's tendancy to specialize

2019-11-10 04:28:48 UTC  

Oh it's serious shit lol

2019-11-10 04:28:50 UTC  

Not that anyone likes the guy who climbs to that position tbh

2019-11-10 04:28:58 UTC  

that speciaization comes from not doing anything and being trained to be a leader. a mechanic who has spent 20 years on the job might have no idea how to be a leader in corporates eyes, but his will do a damn better job leading the mechanics section of your company than the person who has 20 years in inter-personal management.

2019-11-10 04:29:21 UTC  

that is partial true, yes

2019-11-10 04:29:35 UTC  

Experience is the word

2019-11-10 04:29:35 UTC  

there is an abstract element to dealing with people

2019-11-10 04:29:53 UTC  

but you can learn that anywhere and apply it anywhere else

2019-11-10 04:30:30 UTC  

the leader learns 'the hierarchy' more than any skill he does within that hierarchy

2019-11-10 04:30:42 UTC  

Kind of but it has to be in a similar environment

2019-11-10 04:30:55 UTC  

hence the hierarchy component

2019-11-10 04:31:10 UTC  

Send the mechanic to a couple psychology classes and management seminars, done.

2019-11-10 04:31:19 UTC  

negative

2019-11-10 04:31:23 UTC  

Noooo

2019-11-10 04:31:27 UTC  

hehe

2019-11-10 04:31:43 UTC  

psyhcology, in my opinion; worst thing for the West

2019-11-10 04:31:48 UTC  

oh god most of the mechanics i know would eat them alive.

2019-11-10 04:32:16 UTC  

because instead of said knowledge being held by those with most expeience, it is wielding by all

2019-11-10 04:32:22 UTC  

Its better to just pick people from those already exhibiting the right behaviour then training somebody who has no skill because if we're being real here you have to fucking work at any skill to really develop it and those people fucking won't do that if they don't already show the initiative

2019-11-10 04:32:25 UTC  

but you get my point, it's not a lot of catchup when he already has a large baseline

2019-11-10 04:33:05 UTC  

true. but there are different types of initiative

2019-11-10 04:33:09 UTC  

most of it is confidence building in the new role, fix it with additional training

2019-11-10 04:33:19 UTC  

not so sure about that