Message from @Dubdogelmo
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Looks like theyre involved already
So on 80 years the Germans went from Blitzkreig to broomsticks lmaoo
Regarding Ms. "failed defence minister"
I'm not so sure it's incompetence.
Remember that she's a "federalist" and most likely wants an army directly raised and financed by Brussels.
Weak German army is just another argument they'll use to push for that.
Probably why the European countries keep falling to match their 2% of GDP to finance NATO goal
Not all.
Eastern europe is raising their contribution to match 2% in foreseeable future.
You can't just throw more money at the defence ministry and expect it to make efficient (by government standards) use of the money.
I never asked for this
(can't double the budget year to year, is what I meant)
The state of the german defence force is definitely a result of incompetence and laziness
These are Germans with ALL of their subs unusable
That is almost Argentinian levels of military incompetence
The greens: *We wanna leave the Eur-*
> wild article appears
@Goddess Tyche Depends on the juristiction i guess, but its about the principle, dont drive into people, that is just stupid😄
What evidence do you have that Germans couldn't have a good and functional military if they wanted?
Germans are afraid of having a powerful military. That's why they don't want their own and want an EU one instead.
That's a bit like blaming lack of quality porn production in Saudi Arabia on incompetence.
But its not really the strength of the army overall, it's lacking basic equipment like machine guns and having huge amounts of assets being unusable for no good reason
What do you mean _no good reason_? We _need_ that EU army, don't you know? (:
lol I wouldnt put it past them
I think we should have a general election, but if corbyn wins, the tories should stay in power for the next 3 years while we work on a transition deal... then have another vote because by then people will have changed their minds...
also the media should call all the corbyn voters stupid and racist for reasons
well
that would be when we have another scheduled election anyway
so what you just said is pretty much retarded
and pointless
It's the best plan though
And it's consistent with what we have done with the referendum
The People Vote to Leave so Remain MP's obstruct it for around 3 years and then say that it has been too long and we need another referendum
sounds like pep is ok with it
so if anyone but tories win the next election, pep is ok with letting the tories stay on
while we work out a transition deal
because pep respects democracy like that
tbf the UK isn't a direct democracy
we don't formulate policy via referenda
But the remainers need to realize that there will be serious political consequences if they ignore the 2016 vote to leave