Probably why the European countries keep falling to match their 2% of GDP to finance NATO goal

Not all.

Eastern europe is raising their contribution to match 2% in foreseeable future.

You can't just throw more money at the defence ministry and expect it to make efficient (by government standards) use of the money.

I never asked for this

(can't double the budget year to year, is what I meant)

The state of the german defence force is definitely a result of incompetence and laziness

These are Germans with ALL of their subs unusable

That is almost Argentinian levels of military incompetence

https://www.irishnews.com/news/brexit/2019/10/07/news/dairy-industry-could-be-wiped-out-by-no-deal-brexit-1732574/

The greens: *We wanna leave the Eur-*
> wild article appears

@Goddess Tyche Depends on the juristiction i guess, but its about the principle, dont drive into people, that is just stupid😄

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyt_m6CbTog

What evidence do you have that Germans couldn't have a good and functional military if they wanted?

Germans are afraid of having a powerful military. That's why they don't want their own and want an EU one instead.

@Dubdogelmo

That's a bit like blaming lack of quality porn production in Saudi Arabia on incompetence.

Was a joke

But its not really the strength of the army overall, it's lacking basic equipment like machine guns and having huge amounts of assets being unusable for no good reason

What do you mean _no good reason_? We _need_ that EU army, don't you know? (:

lol I wouldnt put it past them

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1181204794305896448

I think we should have a general election, but if corbyn wins, the tories should stay in power for the next 3 years while we work on a transition deal... then have another vote because by then people will have changed their minds...

also the media should call all the corbyn voters stupid and racist for reasons

well

that would be when we have another scheduled election anyway

so what you just said is pretty much retarded

and pointless

It's the best plan though

And it's consistent with what we have done with the referendum

The People Vote to Leave so Remain MP's obstruct it for around 3 years and then say that it has been too long and we need another referendum

sounds like pep is ok with it

so if anyone but tories win the next election, pep is ok with letting the tories stay on

while we work out a transition deal

because pep respects democracy like that

tbf the UK isn't a direct democracy

we don't formulate policy via referenda

But the remainers need to realize that there will be serious political consequences if they ignore the 2016 vote to leave

Why don't England and Wales just secede from the Union and then leave without a deal?

Both voted majority Leave so it would make sense

And then you wouldn't have the Scottish complaining about being taken out against their will