Message from @petit bourgeois
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But the existence of the interactions isn't subjective.
Agreed @John Doe
In other news has anyone read The Green Book or is in anyway familiar with the philosophy of Gaddafi's Libya (the Jamahiriya)
I can't believe it but I'm actually beginning to align with his ideas (even though I thought I was so unique lol).
@John Doe Playing wack-a-mole, you are predetermined to lose. You need a wider strategy than hitting one mole at a time. Or even several. The whole is greater than the sum of parts.
@Santa Claauz libya was the poorest country when gaddafi took over, and africa's richest country when he left....
"left" lmao
@John Doe And the framing of these interaction is arbitrary.
@Santa Claauz Kaddafi theory is syndicalism, muslim religion and social-democracy. Kaddafi surely been a great comrade and a leader of the left. But look at the results of his theory! He got crushed by Imperialism in the end.
@not_matt I know right! But I'm just so shocked to find a political system that basically fits exactly with me!
@Firefly yes but so do all. He lasted longer than most.
Even down to his views on women and the family it feels like I could've written the green book
@Santa Claauz Mao, Stalin and Lenin did a much better job. I can say Kaddafi did an exceptional job for African continent.
And he died trying to create an independent future for Africa. A true hero.
JAMAHIRIYA FLAIR WHEN
@Santa Claauz I agreeŠ± https://youtu.be/tWQSR2fGK8U
defending mao and stalin?
tankies are ahistorical
we can learn from their clear and obvious mistakes
also lenin should've read marx
*hot takes incoming*
Is Colonel Gaddafi considered a tankie? He was somewhat authoritarian but not really a Marx-Leninist.
not really i was responding to "mao and stalin did a better job" but i realized that they could be in reference to their resisting imperialism
which would be objectively true
have you read state and revolution
no
i honestly shouldn't be weighing in on these political debates anyways im an econ guy
you realize that most of lenin's work in that is just quoting and explaining marx and hegels quotes
and then applying it to political theory
but like... how can you justify the vanguard party im honestly curious
ask marx lol
you replace one means of control over the working class with another but this one i promise will be super nice
you need a transitionary method between captialism
workers still own means
Gonna head out guys. Nice talking to y'all! (Also all glory to the Jamahiriya ;P)
the state just distributes it
baibai
@not_matt we can easily justify. Democracy doesn't work. Democracy is a lie. We need to use something that works.
democracy will die in communism
whaaaaat
i am not on board
workers control of the workplace has to be democratic