tankies are ahistorical

we can learn from their clear and obvious mistakes

also lenin should've read marx

*hot takes incoming*

Is Colonel Gaddafi considered a tankie? He was somewhat authoritarian but not really a Marx-Leninist.

@not_matt Is Fidel Considered a tankei, Che?

sounds pretty *reactionary*

not really i was responding to "mao and stalin did a better job" but i realized that they could be in reference to their resisting imperialism

which would be objectively true

have you read state and revolution

no

i honestly shouldn't be weighing in on these political debates anyways im an econ guy

you realize that most of lenin's work in that is just quoting and explaining marx and hegels quotes

and then applying it to political theory

but like... how can you justify the vanguard party im honestly curious

ask marx lol

you replace one means of control over the working class with another but this one i promise will be super nice

you need a transitionary method between captialism

workers still own means

Gonna head out guys. Nice talking to y'all! (Also all glory to the Jamahiriya ;P)

the state just distributes it

baibai

@not_matt we can easily justify. Democracy doesn't work. Democracy is a lie. We need to use something that works.

democracy will die in communism

whaaaaat

i am not on board

workers control of the workplace has to be democratic

@not_matt why?

ye

otherwise you've just dressed capitalism up in a new outfit

but in like full communism democracy would be a state apparatus

@not_matt Authority is far superior to democracy. Communist authority is necessary.

woah

i mean

not entirely

worker controlled sectors should be democratically owned by the proliteriat

and the state should distribute the goods

and run the markets

honestly am i counter rev if im becoming some sort of market socialist

are you a tito man

@not_matt that is usual for a syndicalist SJW to turn back to capitalism.