not_matt

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hey comrades

thx =- )

@Santa Claauz any leftist who doesn't do economics is a fake fuck

idpol focus isn't leftism

its a social power play.

(the flip side to that is any leftist who isn't inter sectional in opposing oppression is also wrong)

nationalism is right idpol

well here's my take. liberation is primarily an economic, material endeavor. if people are stolen from by capitalists, they are oppressed- full stop. if they are also encumbered by racial, gender, or sexuality bias, they are oppressed in an additional manner. but to liberate the blacks, gays, women, trans, etc, you FIRST have to free them from capitalist exploitation, because that includes ALL of them, not just one individual group.

i'd disagree with it being "deliberately" skewed

but porky uses that racial anger and pits working class against working class

i mean, affirmative action wouldn't be necessary if schools were funded equally instead of by property taxes.

thats an example of porky pointing racial anger in a direction where it serves as economic oppression

WE NEED AFF ACTION vs AFF ACTION IS REVERSE RACIST instead of hey lets educate everyone equally instead of based on where they grow up

when ur school is worse based on growing up in a poor area, you get cyclical poverty ๐Ÿ†’

well i agree

bitching about discrimination is defeatist in a way

highlighting oppression, if the oppression in question concerns it in all forms, can't be a bad thing.... but community building is better

actively fighting >>>> bitching as well no matter what

i disagree with "anything other than class is idpol"

we fight against oppression. that's the whole thing imo

idpol is bad as a distraction. its bad if its obfuscating class. but we also have to recognize that blacks were the ones who were the economic class of slaves. they are currently the ones disproportionately thrown into private prisons to do fucking slave labor

thx comrade

facts

those people ignore oppression. people who only idpol or engage in essentialist bullshit ignore oppression. fuck em

can you rephrase that, im not quite sure i get you

if you are saying that, zielgerat, i'd agree. we have more in common than we don't regardless

@Santa Claauz libya was the poorest country when gaddafi took over, and africa's richest country when he left....

"left" lmao

defending mao and stalin?

tankies are ahistorical

we can learn from their clear and obvious mistakes

also lenin should've read marx

*hot takes incoming*

not really i was responding to "mao and stalin did a better job" but i realized that they could be in reference to their resisting imperialism

which would be objectively true

no

i honestly shouldn't be weighing in on these political debates anyways im an econ guy

but like... how can you justify the vanguard party im honestly curious

you replace one means of control over the working class with another but this one i promise will be super nice

whaaaaat

i am not on board

workers control of the workplace has to be democratic

otherwise you've just dressed capitalism up in a new outfit

honestly am i counter rev if im becoming some sort of market socialist

but worker control of the workplace is still my goal

ceo's get guillotined, dismantle means of oppression etc etc

oh shit i told my friend id take shots with him for his birthday

but now im invested in conversation again

rekt

also i have discord on my phone

ill brb

market it at ceos

They'll pay for their own gulag!

The fact that ancaps still exist is both hilarious and makes me want to hang myself

Leftist sectarianism would be funny if not so depressing

We literally can't even keep internet chat rooms from splintering sometimes smdh

what

individualism perpetuates exploitation?

dar?

wouldn't essentializing oneself perpetuate exploitation?

reducing yourself to an essence

the opposite of existentialism basically

essentializing oneself : "im a gamer"

rather than recognize your own being, your identity becomes what you consume

or what you do

read sartre

and the good parts of heidigger

well then you shouldn't have those questions anymore : )

yikes lol

what do you find wrong with it?

existentialism i mean

(and just because i like existentialism doesn't mean other thinkers won't address the same issues and questions, schelling comes to mind as explaining why we are radically free and individuals but obviously w/o the same context to work with as jps)

ah the old metaphysics is masturbation meme

sartre and de beauvoir both afaik

the freakin intro to being and nothingness asserts his materialism and opposition to idealism

that article says camus is an existentialist lol

i find absurdism to be distinct from existentialism

could just be because camus was more literary than philosophical tbh

fair

heidegger is fucking hilarious in how bad his politics are

state capitalism is gross

workers don't own the means of production >: (

yeah

in all seriousness thats the whole paradox of human existence isnt it. we're self-aware freely choosing beings who are also driven by our material circumstances

exactly

being a subject is like exactly what existentialism is all about

being for-itself rather than in-itself and all that jazz

self consciousness and subjectivity

thats how freedom exists

agree to disagree i guess, i should be studying for finals rn lmfao

> tfw my formerly liberal boyfriend is slowly radicalizing

he's bitching to me about united states imperialism >:)

"why are all lefties except for me such idiots" ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Oh god damn it were yall talking about traps

Ffs

Oh hey no it was just porn

Pleasantly surprised

And if was even softcore

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