Message from @OF-8
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an individual path, it is not communal
"Ezhov: Yes, I talked to him. There were two variants of our plans. The first variant: in the case of war, when we proposed to carry out the arrests of the members of the government and their physical removal. And the second variant: if there were no war in the immediate future, **then to get rid of the leadership of the Party and the government, especially Stalin** and Molotov, **by carrying out terrorist acts against them.** I firmly remember that I told Zhukovskii about this after I had entrusted him with the existence of the conspiracy."
@друг lmao
@OF-8 Well dang, I can be self realised right now, I just have to choose it. Screw you guys I'm off to do heroin. <:troll_king:312064227542040576>
heroin v marxism, heroin is faster and arguably more sustainable
go in fam
Was he tortured for those responses?
Many people have admitted to witchcraft under torture
I haven't seen any evidence of that, so no?
@OF-8 Self realisation is not simply a choice, dingus.
if you say so, i dun did it
it was hard
n=1
Choices are hard?
Yezhov claimed that many of his confessions were obtained under torture
backing the choice with real effort is hard, so yeah
So it's not just a choice.
He denied being a spy, conspirator, or terrorist
well its a series of choices
He did say that he killed many people, but justified it that they were enemies of the people
"[There is NO evidence that Ezhov beaten or tortured to get these confessions – only "supposed" by Pavliukov, 527 bot. - GF]"
Yezhov claimed himself that those confessions were given under torture
"When did you become a German spy?
I was recruited in 1930. In Germany, in Königsberg."
"How did you use this NKVD laboratory in your espionage and conspiratorial activities?" asked Rodos, glancing at Kobulov who was sitting beside him.
"ANSWER: I knew that such a laboratory existed and that Iagoda made use of it in his conspiratorial activities."
yes, his confessions of being a spy, according to himself, were confessed through torture
Okay, show me proof that he was tortured, then.
Choice is metaphysical. Only effort leads to realisation. However your conception is based in exploitation.
Where can we find proof that he was tortured? We have to realize his claims of being tortured for information
and if that is true, those claims cannot be trusted
because plenty of people have confessed to witchcraft under torture
I've only seen allegations of torture, but no proof
you must choose to exploit yourself to fulfill your choice
but we don't know if he was tortured
it's impossible to condense further
and people who confess to witchcraft, we too cannot give evidence of specific people being tortured
@OF-8 How can a self-exploiting pursuit leads to self-realisation? It is a contradiction.
@Sorghagtani Beki source it for me