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It is known that, after Beria was put in place, the NKVD radically changed its ways
I am asking if Stalin even tolerated Yezhov's atrocities
Do you have anything that would imply that Stalin was critical of Yezhov?
"Com. Ezhov concealed in every way from the Central Committee of the ACP(b) the situation of the work in the NKVD organs. Besides that he hid from the CC ACP(b) materials that compromised leading NKVD workers."
That's the main reason why Beria was given that charge in the first place
and attempted to prevent the massacres?
IIRC
Um, probably his arrest and subsequent execution for exactly that
Yezhov's refusal to admit to a conspiracy against Stalin's life and his long, verifiable history as Stalin's primary inquisitor during the Great Purge made him too dangerous to risk at a public show trial where he might betray Stalin's secrets or successfully expose Stalin's orchestration of the Purge.
Sebag-Montefiore, 203.
lmfao
well that's one certainly biased interpretation of events
>I can click on wikipedia citations everyone
Holy fuck it's literally from wikipedia 😂
From Yezhov's article
individual realization is an individual choice.
an individual path, it is not communal
"Ezhov: Yes, I talked to him. There were two variants of our plans. The first variant: in the case of war, when we proposed to carry out the arrests of the members of the government and their physical removal. And the second variant: if there were no war in the immediate future, **then to get rid of the leadership of the Party and the government, especially Stalin** and Molotov, **by carrying out terrorist acts against them.** I firmly remember that I told Zhukovskii about this after I had entrusted him with the existence of the conspiracy."
@OF-8 Well dang, I can be self realised right now, I just have to choose it. Screw you guys I'm off to do heroin. <:troll_king:312064227542040576>
heroin v marxism, heroin is faster and arguably more sustainable
go in fam
Was he tortured for those responses?
Many people have admitted to witchcraft under torture
I haven't seen any evidence of that, so no?
@OF-8 Self realisation is not simply a choice, dingus.
if you say so, i dun did it
it was hard
n=1
Choices are hard?
Yezhov claimed that many of his confessions were obtained under torture
backing the choice with real effort is hard, so yeah
So it's not just a choice.
making the choice with the intent of sticking to it, thats hard
He denied being a spy, conspirator, or terrorist
well its a series of choices
He did say that he killed many people, but justified it that they were enemies of the people
"[There is NO evidence that Ezhov beaten or tortured to get these confessions – only "supposed" by Pavliukov, 527 bot. - GF]"