Message from @mungojelly
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they should make the owner be whoever did the most work to make the company, huh
they dont seize their means of production, they pay them what their business is worth, which is usually int he tens of millions
so some unskilled labourer who walks in off the street should just get the company?
no whoever does the work to make the company
so the person who owns the company?
not who technically owns the resources needed
its like you're trying to fix something that isnt broken
i'm explaining to you in your own terms but you still don't understand
you think he deserves the company because he worked hard
what if someone else technically owned the food truck at first
no he owns it because it was his to begin with
then should all that hard work mean he just gets a minimal payment and no ownership
it's the same work
no because that would be stealing
which is what you're proposing
it's just a different set of rules
it's not "stealing" because it's not violating the rules
it's a different set of rules
where what you said should happen happens
people who work hard building businesses, get to share in the profit of those businsesses
generally it's now the exception
so you're saying if someone works at a company for a long time, and works hard, they should get a proportional share of the profits?
yeh, the same thing you just said
right, thats what I thought you believed
you said how awesome it was that someone's work resulted in them having control and sharing in profit
now let me explain to you why thats bullshit
but that's not how it actually works in this society-- actually owners can invest in stock and put in no work at all
i want society to work the way you falsely implied it does, that's all
when you agree to work for someone, you're forgoing a whole host of risks and challenges such as market stability and supply and demand of goods in exchange for an agreed upon and steady wage, you get paid what you're worth whether you're some bum off the street or a highly skilled intern or technician
the guy who owns the company generally built that company from the ground up or was there for most of its growth
hm? are you explaining to me how employment works? i know
yes so what are you not understanding
no, the guy who owns the company is generally a multinational, what planet do you live on
my boss was not a multinational
that's not the general rule
he lived across the street from me
what products did you sell
cabins
like rooms you could rent
were the things you sold *bought* from people who made their companies from the ground up