Message from @mungojelly

Discord ID: 330675592473083905


2017-07-01 11:43:10 UTC  

you think he deserves the company because he worked hard

2017-07-01 11:43:17 UTC  

what if someone else technically owned the food truck at first

2017-07-01 11:43:22 UTC  

no he owns it because it was his to begin with

2017-07-01 11:43:27 UTC  

then should all that hard work mean he just gets a minimal payment and no ownership

2017-07-01 11:43:29 UTC  

it's the same work

2017-07-01 11:43:39 UTC  

no because that would be stealing

2017-07-01 11:43:46 UTC  

which is what you're proposing

2017-07-01 11:43:48 UTC  

it's just a different set of rules

2017-07-01 11:43:56 UTC  

it's not "stealing" because it's not violating the rules

2017-07-01 11:43:59 UTC  

it's a different set of rules

2017-07-01 11:44:09 UTC  

where what you said should happen happens

2017-07-01 11:44:20 UTC  

people who work hard building businesses, get to share in the profit of those businsesses

2017-07-01 11:44:24 UTC  

i'm saying that should be the rule

2017-07-01 11:44:29 UTC  

generally it's now the exception

2017-07-01 11:45:25 UTC  

so you're saying if someone works at a company for a long time, and works hard, they should get a proportional share of the profits?

2017-07-01 11:45:51 UTC  

yeh, the same thing you just said

2017-07-01 11:46:05 UTC  

right, thats what I thought you believed

2017-07-01 11:46:10 UTC  

you said how awesome it was that someone's work resulted in them having control and sharing in profit

2017-07-01 11:46:11 UTC  

now let me explain to you why thats bullshit

2017-07-01 11:46:35 UTC  

but that's not how it actually works in this society-- actually owners can invest in stock and put in no work at all

2017-07-01 11:46:44 UTC  

i want society to work the way you falsely implied it does, that's all

2017-07-01 11:47:11 UTC  

when you agree to work for someone, you're forgoing a whole host of risks and challenges such as market stability and supply and demand of goods in exchange for an agreed upon and steady wage, you get paid what you're worth whether you're some bum off the street or a highly skilled intern or technician

2017-07-01 11:47:30 UTC  

the guy who owns the company generally built that company from the ground up or was there for most of its growth

2017-07-01 11:47:31 UTC  

hm? are you explaining to me how employment works? i know

2017-07-01 11:47:38 UTC  

yes so what are you not understanding

2017-07-01 11:47:46 UTC  

no, the guy who owns the company is generally a multinational, what planet do you live on

2017-07-01 11:47:58 UTC  

my boss was not a multinational

2017-07-01 11:48:06 UTC  

that's not the general rule

2017-07-01 11:48:07 UTC  

he lived across the street from me

2017-07-01 11:48:10 UTC  

what products did you sell

2017-07-01 11:48:15 UTC  

cabins

2017-07-01 11:48:21 UTC  

like rooms you could rent

2017-07-01 11:48:24 UTC  

were the things you sold *bought* from people who made their companies from the ground up

2017-07-01 11:48:27 UTC  

that we wheeled out to you

2017-07-01 11:48:34 UTC  

or was it just from sysco of course

2017-07-01 11:48:37 UTC  

no they were hand built by my bos

2017-07-01 11:48:41 UTC  

boss

2017-07-01 11:48:50 UTC  

do you think that's how most of the economy works

2017-07-01 11:48:59 UTC  

more or less yeah it is

2017-07-01 11:49:00 UTC  

what do you think about land ownership

2017-07-01 11:49:01 UTC  

supply and demand