Message from @Seedle
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I wonder how long it'll be before leftism because a part of political debate again
at least social democracy made a comeback with bernie sanders which I think is good but untimately won't do much
don't see it happening any time soon, the left seems to be losing everywhere in the west
But of course, I didn't think trump would be president 2 years ago, who knows
The Red Scare atrocity seems to still have effect on today's Western culture, sadly.
I think it's more than that
You can think what you want, but you're one of the people who is poisoned by the red scare.
The way you talk you'll never convince anyone to turn communist
You'd turn stalin into an ancap
Hopeless
Timo
And what happens when the Netherlands goes into recession?
When all those social democratic policies can't be afforded anymore?
When the businessmen bleed money?
Your perfect little paradise won't exist anymore.
That's what is happening in Scandinavia.
It's an international problem.
If a serious economic collapse happen anything can happen
Fascism, communism, libertarian small government, all on the table
Especially in modern times.
I don't care for the current system either
the EU is a cancer
Then why the hell are you arguing against Socialism?
Real socialists are anti-EU
I know, one of the few good things about them
Socialists aren't my top enemy, but they're up there
The only way for actual efficiency is through worker's control of the economy.
Period.
No third-party regulations from the state, where it can be bribed and legislated out of existence.
I don't think so, the best people in the sector are the best, simply because they'd get richer for their better services, something stifled currently by governments colluding with big business
I agree with your last point, but not on how to do it
A bigger socialist government is just as volnurable
I disagree. People who are rich aren't rich necessarily for being "the better" at services.
Bankers scam people all the time
"real socialists"
Wells Fargo just got caught doing it.
COMMUNISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED BEFORE
True, but that's because they can buy power from the governments, shrink the governments in areas it's not needed and you get fair competition
No bailouts for one