Message from @Seedle
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Your perfect little paradise won't exist anymore.
That's what is happening in Scandinavia.
It's an international problem.
If a serious economic collapse happen anything can happen
Fascism, communism, libertarian small government, all on the table
It's very visible what happens.
Especially in modern times.
I don't care for the current system either
the EU is a cancer
Then why the hell are you arguing against Socialism?
Real socialists are anti-EU
I know, one of the few good things about them
Socialists aren't my top enemy, but they're up there
The only way for actual efficiency is through worker's control of the economy.
Period.
No third-party regulations from the state, where it can be bribed and legislated out of existence.
I don't think so, the best people in the sector are the best, simply because they'd get richer for their better services, something stifled currently by governments colluding with big business
I agree with your last point, but not on how to do it
A bigger socialist government is just as volnurable
I disagree. People who are rich aren't rich necessarily for being "the better" at services.
"real socialists"
Wells Fargo just got caught doing it.
COMMUNISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED BEFORE
True, but that's because they can buy power from the governments, shrink the governments in areas it's not needed and you get fair competition
No bailouts for one
But when this "shrinkage" goes on, it eliminates the protections of the working-class. In reality, to the bourgeoisie, it's an opportunity for investment.
Let's take my country for example, America.
We're currently trying to repeal Obamacare (a shitty system nonetheless) to free the healthcare market up, so people may invest. Democrats and Republicans have their own lobbyists and rich people they appeal to, and Obamacare represented another side of that bourgeois interest.
get what I mean?
The current system is fucked, we both agree
No fan of the neocons and neo libs
I would say you are more Libertarian, but the thing is, self-regulation with capitalism is unattainable. That's why we have regulations come about in the first place.
And we end up in the same cycle.
A lot of regulation is very positive for certain sectors though
If you agree those politicians are bought and paid for, they're not making it easier for new businesses
Take the high tax for private businesses for example
The new businesses of today are the big businesses of tomorrow.
The average joe pays for it, the big business simply put their stuff in panama
I agree. There is a gap between the small businessman and the big businessman, but the dynamic between what the worker may do and the employer can do in the present and future is still there.