Message from @Anglican
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Nationalism is the support of a national identity.
This national identity can be linked to a lot of things.
But culture, ethnicity, and ideals are veyr popular.
It is upholding the culture of the nation, and promoting national interests, correct?
How does one do this without a state?
I'd say it'd be VERY hard to do it under a voluntary assocation.
It might as well not be something you even fucking attempt.
You can't
A state is simply way more effective at this.
Nationalism requires a state
Okay.
I'm not an Anarchist anyway.
I wonder how Kurds would fit with this.
They're nationalist and pretty leftist, from the Kurds of Turkey to the rather anti-statist Kurds of Syria who filrted with though of Bookchin an ex-anarchist. They also never really had a state.
@Anglican Skimmed through the wikipedia article on national syndicalism, and what I got was a few paragraphs about the origin, and a poorly sourced 2-3 paragraph section, which did mostly beating around the bush and did not give a conclusive definition of national syndicalism, so I cannot make much of an opinion about it.
All that I can say, is that it seems like the bastard child of syndicalism.
It's my ideology; it has nothing to do with how it's officially seen by the wiki.
I'm not a tolitarian. Firstly.
It's literally just a melding of syndicalist economics into a fascist society adn state.
Apparently it is anti marxist, which I find hard to believe.
YOu're being retarded.
Marxism is international and atheist.
NATIONAL SYNDICALISM IS A FORM OF FASCISM
Marxism isn't atheist
Just marx saw religion as something that will fade away eventually
And yes, Syndicalism is a form of socialism,.
But it came before Marx and is a market economic system.
Marx didn't invent communism
He never outlined how a communist society would function
Hold on, I need to restart my computer, linux is being a nigger
Yet it is a combination of fascism and sydnicalism, and it is a form of socialism, woulden't that mean that the belief itself is a product of marxism?
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@olev Marx hated religion.
No.
Marxism is not all forms of socialism.
Marx didn't invent socialism
Again
Marxism isn't even a political ideology
There is a reason why we specifically make a distinction between Marxian Socialists (Leninists and such) and non-Marxian Socialists (Syndicalits, Mutualists, Market Socialists, etc)
And even if Marxian thought lead to the evolution of Nationaist thought from his teachings, the good ones