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2017-09-01 23:56:29 UTC  

Which they just called governence or somet shit.

2017-09-01 23:56:38 UTC  

If you believe nationalist anarchism exists, please explain what nationalism is

2017-09-01 23:56:58 UTC  

Nationalism is the support of a national identity.

2017-09-01 23:57:06 UTC  

This national identity can be linked to a lot of things.

2017-09-01 23:57:16 UTC  

But culture, ethnicity, and ideals are veyr popular.

2017-09-01 23:57:36 UTC  

It is upholding the culture of the nation, and promoting national interests, correct?

2017-09-01 23:57:47 UTC  

How does one do this without a state?

2017-09-01 23:58:28 UTC  

I'd say it'd be VERY hard to do it under a voluntary assocation.

2017-09-01 23:58:36 UTC  

It might as well not be something you even fucking attempt.

2017-09-01 23:58:43 UTC  

You can't

2017-09-01 23:58:47 UTC  

A state is simply way more effective at this.

2017-09-01 23:58:49 UTC  

Nationalism requires a state

2017-09-01 23:58:54 UTC  

Okay.

2017-09-01 23:58:59 UTC  

I'm not an Anarchist anyway.

2017-09-02 00:00:12 UTC  

I wonder how Kurds would fit with this.

They're nationalist and pretty leftist, from the Kurds of Turkey to the rather anti-statist Kurds of Syria who filrted with though of Bookchin an ex-anarchist. They also never really had a state.

2017-09-02 00:01:03 UTC  

@Anglican Skimmed through the wikipedia article on national syndicalism, and what I got was a few paragraphs about the origin, and a poorly sourced 2-3 paragraph section, which did mostly beating around the bush and did not give a conclusive definition of national syndicalism, so I cannot make much of an opinion about it.

2017-09-02 00:01:22 UTC  

All that I can say, is that it seems like the bastard child of syndicalism.

2017-09-02 00:01:43 UTC  

It's my ideology; it has nothing to do with how it's officially seen by the wiki.

2017-09-02 00:01:51 UTC  

I'm not a tolitarian. Firstly.

2017-09-02 00:02:09 UTC  

It's literally just a melding of syndicalist economics into a fascist society adn state.

2017-09-02 00:02:51 UTC  

Apparently it is anti marxist, which I find hard to believe.

2017-09-02 00:03:04 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/353328944726016000/i-have-no-idea-what-im-doing.png

2017-09-02 00:03:12 UTC  

Dude...

2017-09-02 00:03:15 UTC  

YOu're being retarded.

2017-09-02 00:03:22 UTC  

Marxism is international and atheist.

2017-09-02 00:03:29 UTC  

NATIONAL SYNDICALISM IS A FORM OF FASCISM

2017-09-02 00:04:11 UTC  

Marxism isn't atheist

2017-09-02 00:04:37 UTC  

Just marx saw religion as something that will fade away eventually

2017-09-02 00:04:52 UTC  

And yes, Syndicalism is a form of socialism,.

2017-09-02 00:05:04 UTC  

But it came before Marx and is a market economic system.

2017-09-02 00:05:19 UTC  

Marx didn't invent communism

2017-09-02 00:05:40 UTC  

He never outlined how a communist society would function

2017-09-02 00:05:58 UTC  

Hold on, I need to restart my computer, linux is being a nigger

2017-09-02 00:05:58 UTC  

Yet it is a combination of fascism and sydnicalism, and it is a form of socialism, woulden't that mean that the belief itself is a product of marxism?

2017-09-02 00:06:11 UTC  

🤔

2017-09-02 00:06:11 UTC  

@olev Marx hated religion.

2017-09-02 00:06:11 UTC  

No.

2017-09-02 00:06:20 UTC  

Marxism is not all forms of socialism.

2017-09-02 00:06:27 UTC  

Marx didn't invent socialism

2017-09-02 00:06:39 UTC  

Again

2017-09-02 00:06:54 UTC  

Marxism isn't even a political ideology