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So then subjective value does not decide market prices but there are a miriad of factors?
Stop this. You are monopolising the higher ground.
However a product like bread (which was the original product we were talking about) it is the value other people place on it
You seem to think that if personal value doesn't change the price in less than 10 seconds that it doesn't determine the price
No
Fact is tulips are cheap now because competition arose because it was valued
I am trying to get you to admit whether personal value is the decider in the price or not and you contradict yourself left right and center
It is
Said that many many many times
Not sure what you're fishing for
So then how would more competition create cheaper prices when prices are derived from personal value?
The personal value drove the competition
And the competition supposedly drives the prices down, meaning there are multiple factors deciding the price and personal value is not the sole decider?
No, personal value>more competition>lower prices
The value must come first
the competition itself is a result of the value given to a product
So then youve just proven that personal value creates other factors which then may drive the prices down?
Yes
I.E Greater production capibilities
That doesn't contradict my first statement
I think me and twist are different kinds of anarchists. Unions, co-opts and syndicates make me nervous.
they should
Are you an individualist anarchist or ancap?
I guess individualist.
this is my position on black rights
Then a socialist economic organisation is better. At least there you get to keep the fruits of your labor and have an equal say in production management.
is the toothbrush sharing joke actually a joke
How do you keep the fruits of your labor in socialism?
I do not believe in any kind of property.
black people should be property
but because i'm a commie they should be collectively owned
Because when you produce something you either keep it or are paid vouchers equivolent to the value produced
so money?
No
They do not circulate and are non accumulative
Keep it?
What do you do with it?
What vouchers for what?
you get to have as many sneakers as you want