Message from @Timo)))

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2017-09-04 10:59:55 UTC  

I think me and twist are different kinds of anarchists. Unions, co-opts and syndicates make me nervous.

2017-09-04 11:00:04 UTC  

they should

2017-09-04 11:00:11 UTC  

Are you an individualist anarchist or ancap?

2017-09-04 11:00:36 UTC  

I guess individualist.

2017-09-04 11:00:47 UTC  

this is my position on black rights

2017-09-04 11:00:48 UTC  
2017-09-04 11:01:38 UTC  

Then a socialist economic organisation is better. At least there you get to keep the fruits of your labor and have an equal say in production management.

2017-09-04 11:03:12 UTC  

is the toothbrush sharing joke actually a joke

2017-09-04 11:03:13 UTC  

How do you keep the fruits of your labor in socialism?

2017-09-04 11:03:18 UTC  

I do not believe in any kind of property.

2017-09-04 11:03:30 UTC  

black people should be property

2017-09-04 11:03:40 UTC  

but because i'm a commie they should be collectively owned

2017-09-04 11:03:43 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/354219974619037698/1504455521189.png

2017-09-04 11:03:48 UTC  

Because when you produce something you either keep it or are paid vouchers equivolent to the value produced

2017-09-04 11:04:03 UTC  

so money?

2017-09-04 11:04:05 UTC  

No

2017-09-04 11:04:13 UTC  

They do not circulate and are non accumulative

2017-09-04 11:04:15 UTC  

Keep it?

2017-09-04 11:04:18 UTC  

What do you do with it?

2017-09-04 11:04:29 UTC  

What vouchers for what?

2017-09-04 11:04:31 UTC  

you get to have as many sneakers as you want

2017-09-04 11:04:35 UTC  

I do not think you produce, things are just produced.

2017-09-04 11:04:45 UTC  

Well if you make a chair



Its your chair now

2017-09-04 11:04:58 UTC  

I disagree.

2017-09-04 11:05:00 UTC  

Seems like something that ends after you have about 5 chairs

2017-09-04 11:05:20 UTC  

And thats why you then turn them in to the federation or the collective and take your vouchers so you can buy other things

2017-09-04 11:05:51 UTC  

How many chair vouchers for a car?

2017-09-04 11:06:11 UTC  

Idk man, if you produce the value equivolent to a car but in chairs

2017-09-04 11:06:40 UTC  

So you'd have to make your own chair?

2017-09-04 11:06:50 UTC  

if you make chairs i guess

2017-09-04 11:07:01 UTC  

A chair is made. Now there is a chair. That is the end of it. But a chair is also firewood. It can be lots of things. Ownership is a tyranny over utility of objects.

2017-09-04 11:07:25 UTC  

I think if I produce a chair I should be able to keep it since it is a result of my labor

2017-09-04 11:07:39 UTC  

What I want to know from socialists is how they plan on having innovation, who gets to be the inventors?

2017-09-04 11:07:40 UTC  

Oh boy.

2017-09-04 11:07:52 UTC  

🤔

2017-09-04 11:08:06 UTC  

Im not sure what that question means

2017-09-04 11:08:17 UTC  

If you're provided with chairs, which you presumably would

2017-09-04 11:08:20 UTC  

How do new products get made

2017-09-04 11:08:22 UTC  

What is the point of making your own chair

2017-09-04 11:08:22 UTC  

If someone has a good idea then theyll put it forward

2017-09-04 11:08:24 UTC  

Who invents the iphone?